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1000+ India Soldiers on Hunger Strike after the Killing of 2 Jawans

Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by Manmohan Yadav, Jan 11, 2013.

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  1. Marqueur

    Marqueur Peaceful Silence ELITE MEMBER

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    we r in state of war with pakistan since 1947 ... if there is a war it will be WWIII :respect:
     
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  2. G777

    G777 Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Agree and...

    Like the new Avatar.
     
  3. G777

    G777 Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Won't be good if soldiers arent in fighting condition, starving yourself doesnt solve the problem.
     
  4. brahmos_ii

    brahmos_ii Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    There has been fresh firing on the Line of Control (LoC) at five posts in the Krishna Ghati and Sona Gali sectors of Jammu and Kashmir, sources in the Indian Army have said. They said there was firing from the Pakistani side at around 4.30 pm today and India retaliated. An intermittent exchange of fire is on since then; no one has been injured so far.
    Here are the latest developments in this story:
    1.There have been a series of high-level meetings in Delhi as India monitors the tension along the LoC in Kashmir. Defence Minister AK Antony has met the national security advisor Shiv Shankar Menon and Army chief Gen Bikram Singh in Delhi to review the situation.

    2.In Islamabad, the Indian High Commissioner Sharat Sabharwal was summoned by the Pakistan government to protest against the death of a Pakistani soldier last evening allegedly in firing by Indian troops. A statement released after the meeting said Pakistan had protested against "the repeated, unacceptable and unprovoked attacks on Pakistani soldiers by the Indian army." (Read full statement)

    3.Pakistan has also suspended cross-border trade and a bus service between the Poonch sector in India and Rawalakot on the Pakistan side of the Line of Control (LoC). Indian authorities say they have been informed by the Pakistani side that trade and travel has been suspended in that sector because of the tension in the region and the possibility of crossfire.

    4.Border trade is unaffected between Uri and Chakan-da-Badh in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) and across the Wagah-Attari border, with about 500 trucks crossing over today. Cross-border trade and bus services were both introduced to build confidence and trust between the two countries. Vegetables and fruits are bartered every week at designated trade centres along the LoC.

    5.Defence Minister AK Antony said today that the recent ceasefire violations along the Line of Control in Kashmir are "a major cause of concern". He also said, "We will take every step to protect our interest and the Indian armed forces."

    6.India has also said that if Pakistan targets its posts again, it will respond "appropriately". Both sides have accused the other's troops of violating the ceasefire and crossing the LoC to kill jawans.

    7.Hafiz Saeed, accused of masterminding the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack in 2008, was quoted by Reuters today as denying Indian press reports that he had been inciting action against India in PoK region just before the outbreak of tension this week. "We do not want any force to be used or any military operation for this. But the Indians are opting for the other alternative," Saeed told Reuters in a telephone interview.

    8.Despite the hostility that has peaked since Tuesday when two Indian soldiers were killed and one of them was beheaded, both sides have cautioned against an escalation of the crisis. J&K Chief Minister Omar Abdullah today said, "We want the ceasefire between the two countries to continue because its violation affects the J and K population."

    9.Pakistan has denied that its soldiers crossed the LoC and killed the jawans, and has offered a United Nations inquiry, which India has flatly rejected. The External Affairs Ministry summoned Pakistan High Commissioner Salman Bashir on Wednesday to ask for an investigation into the "barbaric and inhuman mutilation" of its soldiers' dead bodies.

    10.The tension began on Sunday when the Pakistani army accused India of killing one of its soldiers and wounding another in a cross-border attack. India said its troops had opened fire following a Pakistani mortar attack, but denied they crossed the border. Four soldiers have been killed in the last five days. This week marks a peak in hostility since 2003, when the ceasefire was agreed upon.

    Fresh firing by Pakistani troops on five Indian posts, say sources | NDTV.com
     
  5. G777

    G777 Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    This is all we need, this will truly be WWIII if this fight happens between two countrys. India might have better control over its weapons but Pakistan (and from reading the above) doesnt have the same control. Which will escalate into the use of larger more powerful weapons.
     
  6. WMD

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    India is not a war mongering country, our economy unlike US is not based on war.
    we hav to realize that any conflict between India and Pak won't b limited to conventional warfare
    Pakistan refuses to adopt a "no-first-use" doctrine, indicating that it would strike India with atomic weapons even if India did not use such weapons first. Pakistan’s asymmetric nuclear posture has significant influence on India's decision ability to retaliate, as shown in 2001 and 2008 crises, when Pakistan-based terror organization carried out deadly attacks on Indian soil, only to be met with a relatively subdued response from India. A former Indian Chief of Army Staff, General Shankar Roychowdhury, stated that "Pakistan's threat of nuclear first-use deterred India from seriously considering conventional military strikes." India is Pakistan's primary geographic neighbor and primary strategic competitor. Pakistan’s conventional warfare capability and nuclear weapons development are primarily driven out of fear of India: The two countries share an 1800 mile border and have suffered a violent history—four wars in less than seven decades. The past three decades have seen India's economy eclipse that of Pakistan's, allowing the former to outpace the latter in defense expenditure at a decreasing share of GDP. In comparison to population, India is more powerful than Pakistan by almost every metric of military, economic, and political power—and the gap continues to grow," a Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs report claims.(wiki)
    so god forbid if ever a WW-III happens it'll b the end of human civilization as we know it.
    but our patience has a limit, just look for ceasefire violations by PA in the last decade,
    fresh news coming out that the terrorist hafez saeed is warning India not to take any action otherwise violence will escalate in Kashmir valley.
     
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  7. AccessDenied

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    Blame Gandhi for that. But there seems to be no other option left for the Jawans to get their voices heard by the massively impotent GoI.
     
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  8. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    It's more of a symbolic protest. I think letting them express their solidarity is a good thing. Policy, of course, will remain with the GOI.
     
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    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    I need a credible newslink on this. The IA is generally very disciplined and executes whatever the decisions that the government of the time takes. I think this might be a symbolic expression of solidarity to make sure people have these sensibilities in mind, rather than some sort of an intended mutiny,
     
  10. mallika

    mallika 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    The need of the Hour is that India needs to reform itself to all types of challenges,

    2003 Ceasefire is nothing but a clever tactical ploy by General Pervez Musharaff who very well knows that Pakistan army cannot afford to fight on 3 Fronts Kashmir, Eastern Border with India and Western border with Al-qaeda terroists.


    The same Question was raised by Retd. Brigadier Gumreet Kanwal in India Conclave 2003.

    The need of the Hour Covert Warfare Capabilities, Pakistan believes this warfare is with Less cost and high dividends, We must also invest in these areas.
     
  11. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Bro, the news is true and GOI knows it. The mobilisation by PA is a direct result of this. They now know that they have crossed the dangerline this time. Entire IA + IN + IAF is now at loggerheads with UPA and ready to revolt. Is this what a stupid sardar had wanted?
     
  12. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    Thats why all the Commanding officers have been
    requesting them to quit this fast
     
  13. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    That Idiot has just lost his sanity

    On top of that UPA says it will disciplinary
    against the Brigadier who ordered
    a commando operation against PA positions
     
  14. Jungibaaz

    Jungibaaz Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    There has been no mobilization.
    Units may be on alert in case firing starts again, but no mobilization.

    Another shiner from the Indian media.
     
  15. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    Media is not reporting anything about Mobilization
    thats the news we are getting from our own sources.
     
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