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11 CRPF personnel, injured in an encounter with Maoists in Chhattisgarh's Sukma, succumb to their in

Discussion in 'Internal Affairs' started by Scotlander, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. Dagger

    Dagger 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    There must be retribution. Even a level above that. Essentially a low tech guerilla force, should know that its a completely outmatched, when it rebels against the government. We should be using our tech advantage. Drones, helis, motion detector coverage in forests to detect movement, spies. But for this, We need a highly trained force (which we lack) and government will- (non existent)
     
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    Flyboy! Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I think it is a complete failure of all governments from Congress to UPA to NDA and BJP. They either took it lightly or pushed it onto state governments to handle the naxals. The last option I see is to send in the missionaries lol. They did a good job with tribals in the seven sister states. Im sure they will be effective with the the naxals too.
     
  3. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    yes, but that's not what led to end of Naxalism in Kerala. It was the deal cut with communists that they can participate in democratic process as a legitimate party- this eventually led to all leftist demands being channeled through the CPI M. Issue with Naxalism in central India is that there is no political check-valve. They know that if they form a political party to fight elections, they and their supporters will be hunted down and killed like dogs. This is not only because of the violent history of naxalites- this is also because the current political patries do not want another rival who is likely to be a powerful challenger. Without a political space they will obviously go undergoround and turn violent.
     
  4. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    @SrNair specifically, there is Naxalism in central India because the political parties there are preventing the formation of a left party like CPI M. If there was a Communist Party of India -Jharkhand, this situation would not have arisen.
     
  5. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Not sure why they haven't already.
     
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    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Does anyone know if Salwa Judum (and any other similar groups) are still active in Naxal-infested areas? If not, I believe it's long overdue that we reintroduce local militias in insurgency affected areas, whether it's Ikhwani groups in Kashmir or Salwa Judum in Chhattisgarh and similar areas.
     
  7. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    That is the problem.

    You have to understand that the ground situation in Jharkhand is not same.

    What you are saying is practically not possible , simply because of the fact that tribes of Jharkhand don't support these movements.

    Try to search about the top leaderships of these terrorist groups , non of them belong to any tribe of Jharkhand.

    This is a big difference.

    If you try to enforce outsiders , it will only result in more chaos.
     
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    Still this doesnt change their fate ,right?
    Security forces will wipe them out like they did before .
    There is no justification for killing CRPF mens that was in there for road construction.They werent there for combing ops .Right?

    Problem is Naxals cant afford the losing of their power .
    A good deal will ensure that they wont face any witch hunt after they comes in to mainstream.
    But for that you should have some support among peoples and tribals .According to a native from Jharakhand here they dont have that support among them.

    Two years of emergency ,Kerala Police simply tortured and wiped out Naxals .
    There is a lady known as Ajitha in Kerala ,a former Naxal and like them there is a lots of others .But noone from public supports them .

    Maoists also fear same zero importance .
     
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    That's why it has to be a political party right? If people don't support them, they fail at the ballot box. That's proof. Without that they'll say 'everyone supports us but the state represses us'. That's exactly what the kerala naxals said until they were becoming a part of the political process.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    So you are ok with a new insurgency starting with popular support of all tribes of Jharkhand , who are atleast 2 crore in population to prove that these Naxal groups led by naxals of Telangana and West Bengal , who have at most 20k supporters here?

    That is not smart !
     
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  13. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    you don't get...THEY TOO must be able to vent their anger through political parties. If that channel is effective, no one turns to violence. Why do you think Dalits aren't significantly violent in UP? Mayawati is not a good CM, but they have a voice. To me there is a lot of clarity in that existing political parties don't want a eft party to come up there. But the poor people there do have strong leftist demands. So the inevitable happns, beaten down they decide to move to violence rather than politics. And this cycle we continue as long as more violence is the input.
     
  14. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    But you are not understanding the basic thing.

    Why should naxals from Telangana and Kerala , get a representation in Jharkhand?

    It will only complicate matters here.

    If you want a political solution for naxals of Telangana , do it in Telangana , if you want it for Naxals of Kerela, do it in Kerala.

    The present situation [if you try to study a bit about the present leadership of these terrorists ] , will help you understand my point better.
     

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