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26 CRPF jawans killed !!

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by Desi Jatt, Jun 29, 2010.

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  1. Desi Jatt

    Desi Jatt Captain ELITE MEMBER

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    guys a very sad news coming in....

    26 CRPF jawans killed !!

    Twenty-six personnel of the 39 Battalion of the Central Reserve Police Force were killed in a Maoist ambush in Chhattisgarh's Narayanpur district on Tuesday. “At present we can confirm only 26 deaths,†said CRPF Inspector-General Vijay Raman. “We shall be in a position to give a final figure only once all the troops returned to the camp.â€

    “We also lost a CRPF officer, Assistant Commandant Gulati, in the ambush,†said another source in CRPF intelligence, adding that “the toll was expected to rise.†About 70 CRPF personnel were conducting a Road Opening Operation (ROP) on foot on the Narayanpur-Orcha road when the attack occurred.

    At least two critically injured policemen were evacuated to Jagdalpur by helicopter.

    Officials told The Hindu that the soldiers were still making their way back to their camp.

    Maoist bandh

    Local journalists in Narayanpur said the attack occurred in the backdrop of a two-day bandh declared by the Communist Party of India (Maoist).

    Sources said the attack took place near a hilly stretch known as the Jhadha Ghati, 3 km from Dhudhai. According to a PTI report, Maoist fighters opened fire from a hilltop as the soldiers were returning from their patrol.

    “A large number of Maoist fighters surrounded the rear section of the CRPF party and opened fire,†said a source.

    The Narayanpur-Orcha road is considered to be the gateway to Abujhmad, a 4000 sq km forested area that has been declared a “liberated zone†by the CPI (Maoist).

    In past years, the onset of the monsoons usually marked a reduction in the number of encounters between the Maoists and security forces. This year, however, police officials had indicated that search operations would continue despite the inclement weather.

    On April 6 this year, 75 CRPF soldiers and a head constable of the Chhattisgarh police were killed in an early morning ambush in Dantewada district. On May 8, eight men of the CRPF were killed in Narayanpur when naxals blew up a mine-proof vehicle.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article492151.ece

    RIP to the soldiers !!

    the figure is likely to rise....
     
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  2. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    This is insane. We should have got our army to do the job. A chopper would have cleared everything in 10 minutes.

    RIP to the dead.
     
  3. Skyler

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    Getting the army wil aggrevate the collateral situation. Rather, more technology oriented strategies should be planned. i cant understand 1 thing. We have been usng all sorts of sensors and thermal imaging gadgets againest the militants. Why cant the same be employed here. It would enable in accessing the situation better and co-ordinate a better and prolonged plan in the region.
     
  4. Desi Jatt

    Desi Jatt Captain ELITE MEMBER

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    If this not the time to use the army..then probably never...our crpf jawans are losing their precious lives...we have to get these maoist out from the root...let them get some royal treatment from army and realise how it feels to get a bullet hit on your head..
     
  5. AVADI

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    First RIP to the Martyr's.

    Now
    I mean what the fcuk man not again:frusty: .Is our CRPF that useless. Come on they are security force and getting killed like this surely don't instill confidence in them.
     
  6. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I think it's time we realised that the CRPF can't be used for the highly affected areas,
    This is what I propose
    1)Use the CRPF for the lesser affected areas, develop the infrastructure and civil administration.
    2)Increase the number of babus, the ratio is a ridiculous 0.25 million to one IAS officer, in the tribal areas its even worse.
    The problem is governance, keep in mind that Gujarat also has a good tribal population, but it is due to the governance, it is lesser affected, if at all.
    3) Use the Army to neytralise the strongholds like Dantewada.
     
  7. veteran

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    This is not surprising, i expected this to happen.given the type of strategy the home ministry is working on,i guess many more such incidents are bound to happen.
    There is not a single person in the ministry who would take responsibility for anti-naxal operation.all the chief ministers from all the naxal infected states are busy in doing politics.
    these crooks don't even understand about the phase which the family's of jawans are going through.

    These forces will not taste complete success until all the forces be CRPF,state police and other forces are brought under a common command structure.I keep repeating this there is no common consensus between the chief ministers.they all are playing their own cards.COBRA's are trained in much better way,but the basic CRPF training is not up to standards.i repeat it again ,they need basic infantry training like normal army jawan.

    The government is simply waiting for the day when the situation will be out of hand and then they have draw in army and the air force.the government itself is making things difficult for the forces.forces are given worst facilities in their camps.they are treated like animals,yes it is true.they are simply making fun of the deployed forces,how do you expect our guys to do better when the government is not even concerned?simply by sending them into jungles will not yield any desired result,some body has to be made in charge.give him the powers,so politically and mentally destroyed parties should not interfere in his mode of operation.
    Government has so many options to choose from,they have think tank and military strategist.why the hell they are not using their services???

    Group of ministers should be made to live in the base camps of CRPF,and they should see in what conditions our jawans are fighting in.then also there is half percent chance they will do anything for jawans.
     
  8. Desi Jatt

    Desi Jatt Captain ELITE MEMBER

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    The maoists/naxals menace was not heard in the last few years when suddenly it has started gaining grounds again....why,where and how did this start again ???

    Its all the game of our political parties...in W.B the game as far as I remember started when there was a mojor clash between the police and maoists in disguise of villagers in Singur..many police jawans were killed in gun shots....the question was then raised how did the villager get the sophisticated guns...and later it was revealed that they were infact maoists..present during the Singur protests.

    whose interest was there in killing the police ? or creating a dispute ? ....one party has created it years ago...and another is using it for its own political interest...both are suffering from it now includingthe locals.
     
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  9. AVADI

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    ^end result is our precious jawans gets killed.If these damn Naxals want's to prove a point they should kill a damn Political leader a corrupt and famous one would be nice.
     
  10. Desi Jatt

    Desi Jatt Captain ELITE MEMBER

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    ^my point was..the problem will not be fixed..cause the problem is our leaders who are /have used them..they dont want to be iumasked.
     
  11. AVADI

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    ^that's true in a sense. We need change now. Only deployment of Army could bring the situation under control.
     
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    first of all what happened to the COBRAS,r not they trained to take care of this menace

    but first of all they need to shoot people like soren and banerjee who provide this people asylum for their petty politics
     
  13. Desi Jatt

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    CoBRA squad has been deplyoed after the attack :ranger:

    The Hindu : News / National : CoBRA squad deployed as combing intensifies
     
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    RIP to the dead
    This anti-naxal forces must be better trained, better equipped, and most importantly, better led.
     
  15. veteran

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    To fight against the naxal's we have to analyze their strategy.the government just by sending troops can not win this battle.

    1.Naxal follows the command structure very similar to that of the army.where as our forces does not have common command structure.every body is working on its own,no counter strategy,no tactical planning,no co-ordination in field,no special tactics.

    2.we are fighting against an enemy who have good familiarization of the areas they are hiding in.they know their weakness and their strength.they follow the policy of surprising the enemy.they have been successful because of the traps they set up in the jungles.they have a common mode,to attack the enemy from three sides.out of these 3 sections,one section is a distraction.when our forces are engaged this distraction engages them and lures our forces to chase.by chasing this particular section they get deviated from there assigned path,and hence at a particular junction they are ambushed.


    3.Land mines is a very efficient weapons for naxal's.they know when and where there is a troop deployment.there intelligence is strong and sometimes there anticipation works. they know how to plant and how much to plant ??every single time when we have lost a convoy there has been just sufficient explosives so as to take out convoy,not less not more.it means they always know we are coming.


    4.Due to some politicians naxal's have gained enough confidence to counter us.due to these bloody politicians our own jawans are killed,straight away shoot these bastards.

    5.Naxal's have a supply route from which they get all their supplies be it arms,ammunition,ration or even navigational equipment's.


    Eliminating Naxal's

    1.Bring in the basic infantry training for CRPF and other forces.train them hard so that they don't bleed in war.Basic infantry training will not only teach them
    more combat skills but also teach them how to take decision on their own.situations like Ambush is tough to break but can be broken if u learned the tactics well.

    2.Naxal's use the surprise element but they their tactics is not new.Our forces today are facing a huge challenge due to weak co-ordination.there is not a single high rank officer who can say "i will lead my boys into the field".we need better commanders to lead the men.as i said earlier the officer cadre of the forces should be given crash course into basic combat operation as well as jungle warfare.give them ideas and tactics so that these officers can use their own brain to break the deadlock as in the case of ambush.

    3.Cut the supply route,well this is the most difficult part.this objective can only be achieved when you have good intelligence along with instant reaction.place your QRT on the every possible supply route assigning them vectored position.it will take some time but it will useful in cutting off their supply routes.supply routes will always lead you through the jungles to their hidden base camps.

    4.Place commando section in every battalion. send them by road when you have a convoy cover along with jeep mounted machine guns.if you are sending them in hostile environment para drop them.The chopper's might come under attack but fix missile pods to give them superior fire power.they can really inflict heavy damage to the enemy position's.


    to be continued ....
    really feeling sleepy chap's ,i will continue in the morning.
     
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