3 Indian vendors selected to procure artillery howitzers for Army

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  1. Gessler
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    Are we talking about the tender in which Tata entered the T5-52 or are we talking about Indian artillery deals
    in general?

    In the Indian Army's conscript, Mounted Gun Systems are the same as Wheeled/Motorised gun systems.

    This is explained by Prasun Sengupta in the link provided above by Rock n Rolla in post #18.

    TRISHUL: TATA Power SED's 155mm/52-cal Motorised Howitzer Detailed

    The numbers are confusing, and I believe the picture of the ongoing tenders you gave is pretty old.

    Motorised howitzers are the same as Mounted Gun systems and wheeled howitzers.
    Tracked howitzers are guns fitted on a tank chassis.

    I am talking only regarding the wheeled ones (the tender in which Tata tied up with Denel and is offering the
    T5-52), according to Prasun, the tender to procure 1,580 towed 155x52 guns is all but redundant as IA is not
    interested in any more towed guns except the OFB-developed FH-77B and maybe the future ATAGS as well.
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    the only tracked howitzer russians have to offer is Msta. caliber is diff. though.

    the discussion is abt the staring article of this thread in which defence minister's answer to a query in parliament is mentioned.
    the article mentions the procurement of 100 tracked howitzers, though little bit confusing considering it doesn't shed any light whether any other foreign vendors r participating or they got rejected.

    the procurement of towed howitzers is not cancelled but its in limbo that's why sengupta is saying "virtually certain that the Indian Army will no longer procure the 1,580 towed 155mm/52-cal howitzers that it had earlier planned to"

    in the meantime the geniuses at OFB will manufacture FH-77 155mm/45cal towed howitzer(from old ToT documents which they discovered after more than 20yrs) and upgrade old artillery guns.
    Press Information Bureau English Releases

    although a mounted gun system can be considered as a wheeled howitzer, diff. exist between them.

    e.g- the TATA T5-52 is a mounted gun system but a G6 howitzer is a wheeled system both Denel(gun in case of TATA).

    the pic is from a PDF released in Mar'12.

    this thread is abt 100 tracked howitzer procurement at a cost of 800mn USD.
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    Since it wasn't posted here yet, the following pics were posted by Koovie on PDF:


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    It shows the K9 Thunder of Samsung Techwin, which teamed up with L&T in India, most likely for trials. And here is a comparison, that I made after the last defexpo about the shown howitzers:
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    This is really nice [MENTION=6541]Sancho[/MENTION]
    But you should post your comparison newly here.

    Also Can you please elaborate how many of these artillery systems are we going to procure?
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    Never to Pakistan :shocked:, they buy cheap Chinese stuff anyways, should sell to countries like Malaysia, Vietnam etc to grab attention. :mrgreen:
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    you can't as you needed an approval from govt. for selling:sarcastic:
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    He meant illegally to grab govt attention.
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    then you will be consider smuggler and traitor... loss of the cause
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    Then how? Govt rarely consider/support private Indian companies in defence sector. :tdown:
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    in past when the european nations loose war... you know what they do and say... alliance is defeated.... raise the new alliance:wink:
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    :unsure: Do you mean JV's with foreign firms?

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