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3 Paris officers shot, 1 fatally, in Champs-Elysees attack

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  1. BMD

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    We've had 1 Islamic terror attack in the last 4 years and 2 in the last 12 years. How many has France had in the last 3 years alone?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_France

    20 December 2014 Stabbing 0 3 2014 Tours police station stabbing. A man yelling "Allahu Akbar" attacked a police office in Joué-lès-Tours with a knife. He was killed and 3 police officers were injured.
    7-9 January 2015 Shooting 17 22 January 2015 Île-de-France attacks, a mass shooting at the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo office in Paris, carried out by Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, two Islamist gunmen who identified themselves as belonging to Al-Qaeda in Yemen.[1] During this period, a third Islamist gunman and close friend of the Kouachi brothers, Amedy Coulibaly was responsible for two shootings and an hostage taking at a Hypercacher kosher market. He said he synchronized his attacks with the Kouachi brothers. Coulibaly had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
    3 February 2015 Stabbing 0 3 3 military men, guarding a Jewish community center in Nice, are attacked by Moussa Coulibaly (not related to the January Coulibaly attacks).
    19 April 2015 Shooting 1 0 Unsuccessful attack against 2 churches in Villejuif by an Algerian jihadist. He killed a woman probably when trying to steal her car but accidentally shot himself in the leg, putting an end to his plans.[25]
    26 June 2015 Beheading 1 2 Saint-Quentin-Fallavier attack. An Islamist delivery driver probably linked to ISIS decapitated a man and rammed a company van into gas cylinders at the Air Products gas factory in an attempt to blow up the building.
    21 August 2015 Shooting and stabbing 0 4 2015 Thalys train attack. An attempted mass shooting occurred on a train traveling from Amsterdam to Paris. Four people were injured, including the assailant who was subdued by other passengers.[26]
    13-14 November 2015 Shootings, hostage taking and suicide bombings 130 368 November 2015 Paris attacks. The single deadliest terrorist attack in French history. Multiple shooting and grenade attacks occurred on a Friday night; among the locations targeted were a music venue, sports stadium and several bar and restaurant terraces. 90 persons were killed during a siege at an Eagles of Death Metal concert inside the Bataclan. French president François Hollande evacuated from a football match between France and Germany at the Stade de France, venue for the UEFA Euro 2016 Final, after three separate suicide bombings over the course of about 40 minutes. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attacks and President Hollande named the Paris attacks an "'act of war'".[27]
    1 January 2016 Vehicle ramming 0 2 A man rammed his car twice into 4 soldiers protecting a mosque in Valence. He said he wanted to kill troops and jihadi propaganda images were found on his computer.[28]
    7 January 2016 Stabbing 0 1 January 2016 Paris police station attack, a jihadist wearing a fake explosive belt attacked police officers in the Goutte d'Or district in Paris with a meat cleaver, while shouting "Allahu Akbar". He was shot dead and one policeman receiving injuries. The ISIS flag and a clearly written claim in Arabic, were found on the attacker.[29]
    13 June 2016 Stabbing 2 0 2016 Magnanville stabbing, a police officer and his wife, a police secretary, were stabbed to death in their home in Magnanville by a jihadist. ISIS claimed responsibility.
    14 July 2016 Vehicle ramming 86 434 A 19 tonne cargo truck was deliberately driven into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice. The driver was Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, a Tunisian resident of France. The attack ended following an exchange of gunfire, during which Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was shot and killed by police.
    19 July 2016 Stabbing 0 4 An Islamist staying in a holiday resort, in Garda-Colombe, attacked a family of four with a kitchen knife. He told prosecutors he was offended by their lack of suitable clothing.
    26 July 2016 Stabbing 1 3 2016 Normandy church attack, two terrorists attacked a church during a mass, killing an 86-year-old priest. ISIS claimed responsibility.
    19 August 2016 Stabbing 0 1 A rabbi was stabbed in Strasbourg by a man reportedly shouting Allahu Akbar.
    30 August 2016 Stabbing 0 1 A policeman was wounded in a melee attack in a police station. The assailant was arrested by other policemen. He tried to kill the policeman because "It represents France".[143]
    2 September 2016 Stabbing 0 (+1) 2 A 29-year-old attacker injured a nurse and police were called to the scene, upon which a policewoman was seriously injured. The perpetrator was shot dead by another officer and the incident is being described as a 'terrorist incident'.[8]
    4 September 2016 Stabbing 0 2 A prisoner in a radicalization prevention unit wounded two prison officers. The detainee first assaulted a supervisor with an artisanal weapon. A second supervisor, posted at the entrance to the exercise yard, was also injured when he tried to help his colleague.[14][15]
    4 September 2016 Melee attack 0 2 Two Islamists attacked an author and his son, with blows to the head and stomach. The author, who wrote a book on 'Jihad', lost consciousness, and has now requested full police protection on his premises. Both victims were called 'filthy whites' and the author's daughter was also verbally abused.
    8 September 2016 Stabbing 0 1 A terror raid took place in Essonne. A suspect attacked a police officer with a machete and was apprehended by his colleagues. The officer was injured in the shoulder and was subsequently hospitalized; though the injuries were reportedly not life-threatening.
    3 February 2017 Stabbing 0 1 2017 Paris machete attack. A soldier near the Louvre museum opened fire on a man who attempted to enter the museum with a machete. The man was shouting "Allahu akbar" and injured the soldier's scalp. [30]
    16 March 2017 Letter bomb 0 1 A letter bomb probably sent by Greek anarchist organization Conspiracy of Cells of Fire exploded at the French office of the IMF injuring one person.[31]
    18 March 2017 Shooting 0 (+1) 1 March 2017 Île-de-France attacks: A policeman was shot and injured in the Paris suburb of Garges-les-Gonesse by an attacker who was later shot dead at Orly Airport near Paris after trying to grab a soldier's firearm.[32]
    20 April 2017 Shooting 1 (+1) 3 2017 shooting of Paris police officers. An Islamist opened fire on police officers on the Champs-Elysees. ISIS claimed responsibility.[33][34][35][36]

    Not refugees? 2nd gen refugees are still refugees in the case of Islamic extremism. They never change, never adapt to fit in, hate us and hate our way of life and have no respect for our values. Problem now, or problem in 20 years. A time delay doesn't change the fact it's a mistake.
     
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    So a time delay makes it a different problem? Sorry but that's hopelessly short-sighted.
     
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    We will be able to control immigration post Brexit and we will not have to suffer because of the immigration mistakes made by other EU nations.

    It's the same problem. In simple mathematical terms, roughly 4% of EU Muslims support/sympathise with ISIS. 4% of a larger number is a larger number and hence a larger problem. You minimise the problem by minimising the number. And they're among the least economically beneficial immigrants anyway, in fact most are a detriment, so there's no economic argument for bringing them in either.
     
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    Too little, too late. The Muslim population of the UK is 4% (close to 3M people) and growing faster than any other community, every 10 years this community it will double in size. Closing the gates now is not going to address this problem, the horse has bolted.

    BREXIT hasn't changed a damn thing, BREXIT only takes the UK out of the EU; how many Muslims were coming to the UK from the EU?


    In 10-15 years the UK's muslim population will be comparable to France's and then the UK will be in the same $hit. Already the security services are stretched beyond capacity monitering the current population, as this increases the problems will magnify. See what they are doing at just 4% of the population (Rotheram, Sharia patrols, "Op trojan horse" etc etc), this is only going to get worse as they expand in ranks.
     
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    It's not about time per se but the different contexts, Sweden and Germany have a security threat from their Muslim "refugees" and France and the UK have the same problem but from their DOMESTIC Muslim populations. Second and third generations of Muslims are the ones causing the problems in the UK and France, Germany and Sweden will be facing a similar issue a few decades down the line.
     
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    No but cutting child benefits for any children after the 2nd would.

    Potentially lots in the future. Who let those folk in Calais in? What happens if Turkey joins the EU or they opt for VISA liberalisation?
     
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    Second and third generation is what I referred to as a time delay. Like a bomb with a longer fuse/timer.
     

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