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Agni V Ballistic Missile

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by SpArK, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. turkish

    turkish Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Can anyone answer this.. If this can be launched from a canister then can't we put this in our submarine. The range if i am not mistaken is 8000km to 9000km
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    theorotically we can but it needs certain modifications and a bigger submarine than arihant.
     
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  4. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    5000Km in ballistic mode. Not sure if the range can be extended with the MIRV version.
     
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  5. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    So we have mastered canister tech finally

    Excellent
     
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  7. Gessler

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    Foxtrot Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Launching a missile from a canister on ground and a missile from submarine under water is a little different.
    You see, in case of ground based canister launch, the canister can be of the size of the missile. You just need to have a gas generator to push it out of the canister.
    But, in case of underwater launch, the scenario totally changes. You just cant put the same ground based launcher under water and hope it will work, because now the missile has to not only clear the canister but also clear the 50ft. of water column above it.
    Well, then one might think that providing a more powerful gas generator might do the trick. Well, it will not ! To put a 50 tonne missile out of water from 50ft. underneath the surface, it would require a hugely powerful gas generator to do that.

    So, what it is actually done is that - the missile is kept in sealed container within the canister. The sealed container is quite bigger than the missile(length wise). When then canister door opens. Water cannot rush in to the canister. Now when the gas generator is fired, it pushes the huge missile up and the missile gathers enough momentum to break the sealed container and even clear the water column above it.
    Now, it has enough momentum to breach the surface of water, and once it is out, the main rocket engine fires.

    I'll post some videos where u can see the SLBM breaking the seal and getting out out of the submarine.


    at 28 sec of the above video you can see a trident missile breaking the seal as it gets out of the submarine.


    you can watch this video from 33min to 37min where it explains very clearly how a SLBM launch is achieved.

    So, with a 17m long Agni 5 missile, the hull of the submarine has to quite wider than it, which is not possible in case of INS Arihant or even its recent successors.
    You'll need a much bigger submarine to launch Agni 5s.

    This is where the role of High Energy propellants come in, which makes the missile smaller and lighter but giving better ranges.
     
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    Yes we did. Congrats to DRDO scientists team.
    we should encourage DRDO for good achievement.
     
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  11. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    There is already a submarine-launched ICBM called K-5 under development with a range of 6,500km with a 2-ton payload. That
    is simply mind-blowing from our enemies' PoV.

    So calm down about developing SLBM version of Agni-V. It ain't needed.

    [​IMG]
     
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    DRDO gears up for 2nd canister-launch of Agni-V

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    BALASORE: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is preparing for the second canisterised launch of India’s most potent home-grown surface-to-surface nuclear capable missile Agni-V. Sources said preparations have begun at the Abdul Kalam Island test facility for the test scheduled in the last week of February. As the missile has to traverse across the Indian Ocean, all logistic issues are to be fixed prior to the launch. The missile has a strike range of more than 5,000 km, the longest one in the arsenal.

    A defence official associated with the mission said since Agni-V is a complex system and the attempt is to fire it from a canister, scientists are on the job to achieve greater accuracy. “The missile will be fired from the confines of its canister, a hermetically-sealed airtight container mounted on a road-mobile Tatra truck,” he said.

    According to DRDO, the missile is among the best in its class in the world with its advanced ring-laser gyros, composite rocket motors and highly accurate micro-navigation systems and inertial navigation systems.

    As Agni-V incorporates advanced technologies involving ring laser gyroscope and accelerometer for navigation and guidance, its accuracy level is far higher than 700-km range Agni-I, 2,000-km range Agni-II and 3,000-km range Agni-III.

    The canister-launch system will give the armed forces the requisite operational flexibility to promptly transport the ballistic missile and launch it from a place of their choice. The DRDO is also working on the canister version of other Agni series of missiles including Agni-I, Agni-III and Agni-IV, the official informed.

    Video of the first test of A5 from road-mobile canister early last year


    So far three tests of Agni-V, including one canister version, have been conducted. The missile will be inducted in the armed forces after two to three more tests. “The next focus will be more on multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRVs) and manoeuvring warheads to defeat enemy ballistic missile defence systems,” said a DRDO scientist.

    With MIRV features each missile can be capable of carrying two to 10 separate nuclear warheads and each warhead can be assigned to a different target, hundreds of kms away from each other and alternatively, two or more warheads can be assigned to one target.

    Developed by the DRDO, the intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) Agni-V can target all of Asia and parts of Africa and Europe. It is part of the Agni series of missiles developed under the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP). The three-stage, 17-metre tall, two-metre wide Agni-V, weighing 50 tonnes, is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead of about 1.5 tonnes. Capable of destroying enemy satellites, this missile flies at a speed of Mach 24.

    DRDO Gears up for Canister Launch of Agni-V -The New Indian Express
     
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    Gessler Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    There was an Agni-V test scheduled for today. Wonder what happened.
     
  14. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major REGISTERED

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    A limited production batch [2-6....] is now with SFC/or has been with SFC for sometime......

    This would though not be the final version in service.... nor I am saying that being in SFC hands, its in service.

    Substantial upgrade of the Guidance system for reliability in extreme conditions[accuracy is fine and people are satisfied with it] and methods for significant reductions in weight will be carried out/is being carried out.

    @Gessler @PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @Hellfire @Sancho
     
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    I don't know how much of this is true. But a senior member (moderator) from another forum claims to have seen an ICBM TRAIN (same like the Russian Missile train) with 4-5 different Agni missiles on it and he says we have several of these. Further he claims that we have at least 48 Agni-5 (road mobile) order for which has been completed. If so then we already have moved on to a deterrent where warheads and missile were separate to a stage where it is already mated and on hair trigger notice.
     

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