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Airbus eyes India market for Panther MBe helicopters

Discussion in 'Indian Defence Industry' started by Manmohan Yadav, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    Airbus Helicopters has delivered its first AS565 MBe Panther helicopter to the Mexican Navy. The next potential market for the Panther MBe appears to be India, where its name is being proposed for a Naval Utility Helicopter (NUH) programme.

    The Mexican Navy recently took delivery of the first of ten AS565 MBe Panther helicopters it purchased in 2014, receiving the new version of the multi-role, medium class military rotorcraft. The Mexican Navy will receive three other units before the end of the year, and the remaining six by early 2018.

    The helicopters that combine new and proven technologies will be operated by the Naval Aviation in the Gulf of Mexico and on the Pacific coast, where they will perform a range of missions including search and rescue, disaster relief transportation and evacuation, drug enforcement and coastal protection. Airbus Helicopters is a division of the Airbus Group.

    In 2015, Airbus Helicopters generated revenues of €6.8 billion. This July, Airbus Helicopters awarded a contract to Mahindra Aerostructures to make airframe parts for the AS565 MBe Panther. Airbus Helicopters and Mahindra Group are proposing the Panther for India’s NUH programme.

    After seven years of protracted delays in acquiring the NUH, the defence ministry is said to have selected domestic companies with their foreign partners for over 100 light utility helicopters, in a deal expected to be over $2.5 billion.

    Sources said since the NUH would need the Indian Navy to play a vital role in tackling piracy in the Indian Ocean region. The NUH should be capable of deploying at least one light weight anti-submarine warfare torpedo.

    Airbus has been proposing the Panther helicopter for the NUH programme. The parts for the Airbus Helicopter and Mahindra contract will be produced at the Mahindra facility in Bengaluru, and shipped directly to the Airbus Helicopter production line in Marignane, France, where they would be integrated with the rest of the airframe assembly, forming a critical part of the Panthers sold worldwide.

    The deal has ensured that Mahindra Aerostructures became the first Indian company to receive a direct manufacturing contract from Airbus Helicopters as a Tier-1 supplier. The Indian firm is expected to gradually emerge as the global single source supplier to Airbus Helicopters for these parts.
     
  2. R!CK

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    This is the need of the hour for IN. It is criminal of IN to even stay mum on this.

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  3. Himanshu Pandey

    Himanshu Pandey Don't get mad, get even. STAR MEMBER

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    I never been able to understand why we had not ordered NUH till now... even when ships are sailing without helicopters.. but then with bulletproof jacket delays tells that nothing is impossible.
     
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    Kamov Ka-31 14
    Kamov Ka-28 14
    Westland Sea King 27
    Sikorsky SH-3 Sea King 6
    HAL Dhruv 12 (12 more on-order)
    HAL Chetak 30
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    A total of 103 helicopters with over 70% in vintage condition to serve a Naval flotilla of over 50 front line surface warships which includes an aircraft carrier and LPD. And nearly 100 ships of all sizes in the pipeline, including another AC and 4 LHD. Very disappointing indeed.

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  5. Himanshu Pandey

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    remove 12 dhruva as they are not on ships.. but on costral stations.. Rudra will be but not dhruva.. and chetaks are not that much relaible after so many years of service... now remains only 60 and with even 70 % availabily its 42 helis for 50+ ships and most of them are designed for 2 helis on one ship and the Aircraft carrier has more then 10 helis on it... so the math says ships are roaming without helis on it.
     
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  6. PARIKRAMA

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    In here - time to unleash our frustration how our navy rotary wing is in shambles..
     
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  7. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    That is impressive load.
     
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    His favorite line "Its criminal to sail a $1 billion destroyer without a $30 million helicopter" :thank_you2:
     
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  9. GuardianRED

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    Can anyone explain this - Isn't the Pather is the same class as the Dhruv? we do know that that the Navy has assigned it to just transport and SAR , and had issues with it being an ASW platform - This was the status for couple of years back. Can't improvements be made to this instead of going in for the panther? (Eg fitting the Dhruv with the same systems as that of the soon to be upgraded Ka-28s?)
     
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  11. R!CK

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    The newer HAL Dhruv is now operated on IN and ICG ships.

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    "But now HAL has cracked the problem. Two of the Dhruv’s rotors fold into the body of the aircraft, while one remains straight outward. So the Indian navy also is changing the hangar designs and making them longer for new vessels like the INS Sumitra class of OPVs.

    The first squadron of the ALH Dhruv had been commission in 2013 primarily for SAR role. However, with the folding blades issues resolved, the ALH looks set for an expanded role within the navy."


    http://www.defenseworld.net/news/14...r_ALH_Dhruv_Gets_Foldable_Rotors#.WAnpC_l97IV


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    Answer might be lack of commitment from HAL to take the initiative and upgrade the ALH for IN requirements. While they are clearly struggling to deliver enough platforms for IA and IAF, they might not see the point in a time consuming project to attract IN.

    Ka-28 is a 12 ton rotor-craft, therefore I don't think it will be possible to install similar systems on Dhruv. That being said, Dhruv is still a credible platform for SAR and OPV support.

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  13. Himanshu Pandey

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    good thing for HAl.. but the requirement is of about 100 NUH and 126 nmrh and 16 mrrh already selected.. all these are extra from dhruvas... which can clearly show how many we need.

    So my friend there is not enough helicopters.. just check the ship's config and helis they carry.
     
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  14. Flyboy!

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    15 crashes for ~200 helos. that's deplorable. Out at sea, the airframe will be subjected to enhanced stresses and corrosion. Dhruv is the worst choice for IN .
     
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    And the Best looking Dhruv award goes to:

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    Anyone looking for a chopper to fly?

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    Good Day all!
     
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