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An Afghan PM Once Offered Vajpayee A Chance To Divide Pakistan Between Themselves

Discussion in 'General History' started by vigour, Nov 25, 2016.

  1. vigour

    vigour FULL MEMBER

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    http://topyaps.com/divide-pakistan-between-afghanistan-and-india

    The relationship between Afghanistan and India is at its strongest in recent years. Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visits to the country and his bonding with the Afghan top leadership has helped India make its presence integral to Afghanistan both for strategic and economic reasons.

    There was a time that the relationship between Kabul and New Delhi was so strong that one of them actually suggested the elimination of a mutual enemy.

    That mutual enemy was, and still is, Pakistan.

    Pakistan has been a perennial pain in the arse for India. But this pain could have been alleviated permanently if things had gone right for Afghanistan and India had a different leadership.

    It was the late 1970s and Atal Bihari Vajpayee was the External Affairs Minister in the Morarji Desai government. Hafizullah Amin was then the Prime Minister of Afghanistan.

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    File photo of Afghan Prime Minister Hafizullah Amin.Alchetron

    It was the time when Afghanistan was not what it is today. Women in Kabul wore western clothing and had a very modern outlook of life. The Soviet Union was a great friend of both Afghanistan and India. So both had the backing of a powerful country.

    In September of 1978, Atal Bihari Vajpayee travelled to Afghanistan. There he met, among other leaders, Prime Minister Amin.

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    A file photo of Atal Bihari Vajpayee.Indian Express

    Now, according to legendary journalist Kuldip Nayar, Amin made a proposal that took Vajpayee by surprise.

    In his autobiography, ‘Beyond the Lines’, Nayar wrote that Amin suggested Vajpayee that India and Afghanistan should attack Pakistan and divide the country between themselves.
    That was indeed a very bold statement. To Vajpayee, it was certainly unexpected. Nothing of that sort happened.

    By December 1979, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan as the country descended into a political quagmire. Amin was assassinated by Soviet troops, who he foolishly believed to be on his side till the last moment.

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    Soviet tanks surround Afghan capital of Kabul in as seen in this 1980 photo.AP

    On the other hand, India’s reins were in the hands of a Prime Minister who so deeply hated his own intelligence agencies that he actually betrayed them into the hands of Pakistanis. So even if the Soviet invasion hadn’t happened, Morarji Desai would never have let that happen to his ‘friend’ Mohammed Zia-ul-Haq, Pakistan’s military chief turned President.

    Pakistan’s good luck kept it safe despite having hostiles on either side.

    Today Afghanistan is nowhere close to its pre-Soviet invasion days. It has its own problems at home – the Taliban and a whole host of terrorists. India, on the other hand, has become stronger but is plagued by problems such as lack of political unity, intellectuals who sympathise with terrorists, and terrorists sponsored by ISI.
     
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    Kalmuahlaunda Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    We got so many chances and offers to destroy enemy from its roots, but the only thing we did was "AMAN KA ASHA" wtf people!!
     
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  3. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    India's history is sadly a catalogue of never ending blunders. A bouquet of What if's? and Could've been's.
     
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    Good luck? Nah. If the state pakistan is in right now is considered good luck, I'd be TERRIFIED to see what bad luck looks like.

    What kept pakistan safe was the inaction & indecisiveness of India's political leadership. Say what you want...Vajpayee was a very flawed person. Morarji's actions that led to India's closure of covert activities are an example of what will happen if a self-loathing twat like Kejriwal ever becomes PM....and Mutemohan Singh? Voh baat hi nahi karega toh hum kyun uski bare me baat kare?

    When you seriously look at it....even a kindergarten kid can figure out how & why Modi won with such huge majority and continues to enjoy such support among the masses (when was the last time a PM had such support in his 3rd year?).

    If everything goes nicely...there will be opportunities to end the pakistan problem once & for all within the next general elections. I'm glad we have the right man for the job. And Trump? He's likely another card falling into place. But that remains to be seen.
     
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  5. MilSpec

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    I don't like the idea of assimilating any part/people of Pakistan into India. I don't see us having any territorial designs...
     
  6. Lion of Rajputana

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    Agreed, but Pak Punjabis are the worst. Sindhis wouldn't be as bad. As for Pak Kashmiris, in order to hold POK, we would just tolerate them the way we tolerate Kashmiris right now, although maybe after living under the pakistani jackboot they'd actually appreciate us and talk some sense into the "Indian" Kashmiris.
     
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    The gist is India has had umpteenth opportunities to sort out it's strategic req in the neighborhood and bungled it up big time.
    Bangladesh after liberation was mishandeled, backing Monarchy in Nepal was idiotic, stonewalling burma for decades was counter productive, 1965 cease fire, 1971 ceasefire on western front, not pushing further after siachin, backing out of attack on kahuta with isrealis ,not hitting mianwali and sargodha during kargil, decision to not open up IB in kargil, standing down at 2002, and backing down now from not mobilising across the IB. All bad decisions, all we and our children will have to pay for.
     
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    We'll have to take back ALL of Kashmir (including G-B & "azad" kashmir) because that is rightfully ours...and I'm talking about the territory, if the people don't want to, they can go to hell. And when I say hell I mean pakistan.
     
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    Solution to kashmir lies else where. PA knows it, and thats why zarb e azb.
     
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    Do we know for a fact why the '82 strike on Kahuta was called off? I read an article on it by Bharat Karnad once, he didn't give a direct reason but implied possible US pressure.
     
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    another missed opportunity added to the ever growing list of Indian strategic miscalculations and blunders.
     
  12. nair

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    May be that is why we have this flare up at LOC.....
     
  13. MilSpec

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    Lack of Spine....
     
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    Yes the Nostalgia of "AMAN KI ASHA" is what was wrong with these people.They held these romantic notions of India and Pakistan becoming one again. But the same blunders were committed by a host of leaders, who were living in Nostalgia not looking after the future of Bharat. That is why only leaders born after PARTITION could do any justice to India,thankfully,we have one now as our PM Narendra Modi,who has no such emotional baggage and nostalgia from the partition. That is why we are seeing India in a new age.
    These leaders are the backbone of this Aman ki Asha collective,they must be shunned and pushed into oblivion,if India wants to realise its true potential.
     
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    i would look forward to relishing that moment when Pakistan is broken into many nations and we regain our Gilgit,Baltistan territory.Hopefully we also get the Aksai Chin territory. asking for a Tibetian Independence is a bit risky but i see the possibilites happening in that way.
     
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