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An Afghan PM Once Offered Vajpayee A Chance To Divide Pakistan Between Themselves

Discussion in 'General History' started by vigour, Nov 25, 2016.

  1. Echo_419

    Echo_419 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    What about Slow Extermination then?
     
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    Wolfpack Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Why should we not have territorial designs,why should we play defence and containment always, let it explode and spread it all over. We can argue on the aspects of assimilation ,First what is needed to do that is a Hindu Rasthra.Once that is done,we can assimilate Pakistan into Bharat,easily!
     
  3. Lion of Rajputana

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    Seriously? She backed down because she got the jitters? So we literally could have wiped out Kahuta and the one thing that prevented it was Indira was too damn scared? Un freaking believable.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Few weeks ago I had also written about dividing Pakistan between India and Afghanistan. Let India have Sindh and Balochistan, Pak to be confined to Pak Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa while Afghanistan dissolves the Durand line and recreates its borders as of 1880.
     
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  5. Lion of Rajputana

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    What will we do w/ Balochistan, it would anyhow be wrong to annex them, let them have their independent country, but ensure that they are allied to us and have a defense pact that kicks in upon independence.

    We should take Sindh and POK/G-B for ourselves, free Balochistan, let Afghanistan shift the Durand line past K-P/NWFP. And leave a landlocked West Punjab to the dogs.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    IMHO, Balochistan will never be able to survive all by itself. Iranians are against them, Punjabis will always remain a threat for them and so will the Afghans as Balochistan has a very small population of its own. An arrangement like what we have with Bhutan is what I am looking for with them which allows for stationing Indian troops in Balochistan for thei security and safety.
     
  7. Lion of Rajputana

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    We could consider covertly arming them with nuclear weapons and sign a defense pact (nukes for Pak, defense pact to offset Pak and Iran). Sort of in the way Israel got nukes to guarantee survival. What is your opinion on that sir?

    Also, yea I absolutely agree. I think best scenario is Balochistan as a sovereign nation (or they will feel betrayed as if we used them for territorial gain, we also didn't annex Bangladesh) but as an Indian protectorate with Indian forces guaranteeing security and helping Baloch Forces organize and improve.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I am completely against allowing anyone in our neighbourhood acquiring nukes.
     
  9. Lion of Rajputana

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    Even if it's to ensure survival against any aggression? A nuclear Balochistan aligned with India would be an incredible thorn in Pak's side no?
     
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    But what if in future unfortunately India & Baloch ties deteriorate.. Then we will have a nuclear pak and Baloch in our neighborhood.
     
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    True, this is a consideration we must make, but perhaps we could do it the way America put nuclear weapons in NATO countries during the Cold War? Maybe we can leave them with Indian forces stationed there?
     
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    cmon now.
     
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  13. nair

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    I do not think India has any territorial ambition...... We are happy with what we have....
     
  14. Lion of Rajputana

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    If we don't then we should. POK is our territory, and Sindh is the cradle of our civilization. And in the case of Sindh, they don't really seem to like Pakistani Punjabis or be keen to stay with them, so it makes sense to assimilate Sindh & POK/GB.

    Balochistan on the other hand should be liberated, and made an ally/protectorate. Afghanistan should also sooner or later be enabled to take back NWFP.

    The sort of death spiral Pak is in, and the way nobody wants to stay w/ the Pak Punjabis, I'd say sooner or later that country's going to fragment, the only necessary condition left is to find a solution/plan to take care of all their nukes, which America has developed and is constantly refining (contingency plans to basically conduct a nuke capturing blitz).

    If India and the US continue to get closer, and as expected if Trump shows a willingness to slowly cut Pak loose, I think it's feasible that India and US work together to secure the nukes while Pak falls apart, and the pieces fall where they may.

    After that, West Punjab can be left as a post apocalyptic hellhole, landlocked, defenseless, and hated by all its neighbors.
     
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    Once Pakistan is reduced to just Punjab and becomes land locked cut off from even China, they will themselves give up their nukes.
     
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