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Anti-EU Sentiment Thread

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by BMD, May 21, 2016.

  1. BMD

    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    @randomradio

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/12025953/Immigration-rules-are-causing-a-curry-crisis.html

    Higher skilled, higher earning migrants are being displaced by unskilled EU immigration.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I know bro. That's why I said if Britain leaves the EU, it will benefit Indian migrants.

    The bigger problem for Britain is when these EU immigrants have kids, the kids grow up to be better educated first and second generation adults who enter politics and make pro-EU policies to the detriment of Britain.
     
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    Now we know Eastern EU migrants to the UK are taking the low-paying jobs, that 'allegedly' UK citizens don't want. Now let's do the maths on that:

    Suppose an Eastern EU migrant is working full-time on minimum wage. If they're >25, that's £7.20/hour. 37 hours a week x 50 weeks gives £13,320pa. That means they pay tax at 20% on only £2,320 of their earnings, which amounts to £464pa in tax revenue. Whereas the average UK worker earns ~£36,000pa and pays £5,000 in tax. Now there's no way £464pa in tax is going to pay to expand public services in proportion to the percentage increase in population, and it drags the average per person downwards, so public services get overburdened, waiting lists go up, and quality of service deteriorates. Then you have immigrants working part-time earning less than £11,000pa, and 18-24 year-old migrants who earn lower than the tax threshold full time, because the minimum wage is lower in those age groups. Then, being really nasty, you have people working for cash-in-hand in car-washes who don't even declare earnings. All these people are entitled to free health care on the NHS, free education for their kids and in-work child benefits, which subsequently means that pitiful £464pa in tax not only disappears completely but turns negative. This is not sustainable, no way no how, and the whole argument that they're 'a net benefit' is plainly mathematical bullshit as I've just demonstrated. They may be hard workers, but their work is frankly a waste of time and money and FAR worse than nothing in terms of net contribution.

    https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
    https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates


    Employing a £21,000 minimum on migrants (i.e. <60% of the national average) would cut 88% of EU migration. That means we're loading up with low-earners who are taking the average tax revenue per person down, meaning public services can't be expanded in proportion to the population increase.

    For non-EU migrants, the minimum salary for qualification is £35,000pa.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17204297
     
  5. Picdelamirand-oil

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    Selfishness is a bad fault. :prison:
     
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    The standard of public services affects everyone and if the population is increasing at a much higher rate than tax and national insurance contributions, then the standard of those services declines - e.g. healthcare, education, policing, public transport etc.

    The only selfish people are the neo-slave traders who wish to make a quick buck from the cheap labour, while this decline ensues.

    It's not the UK's responsibility to act as a job centre for unskilled EU migrants. If you're not earning at least £35k as an immigrant, you're not paying your way, so **** off.
     
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    In India, they are considering removing income tax altogether.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...feasible-experts-say/articleshow/28560215.cms

    One way to get around income tax is to abolish it and introduce new taxes on banking. Then everybody pays the same. At best only the extremely rich should pay extra tax on their income.

    At least in India's case, if income tax is abolished, then a huge amount of black money will start circulating again and that will generate indirect taxes. The plan in India is to abolish all taxes from companies also. If a company is able to save a full 30% tax in India, then that will attract more business and investment from overseas.

    Basically it's part of Modi govt's 10 year plan to completely change the country by bringing in massive reforms in all sectors. From the above, it's obvious how ambitious the plan is.
     
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    We're not leaving, BMD, get over it, you insufferable twit. If I were you, I'd move to far east Asia i.e. Singapore or Japan.
     
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    And what? End up like France? I went to Paris and some parts are like the bloody Congo or Arabia. Mark my words, France is finished. It will only get worse over the next few decades.
     
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    We're lucky it is just EU migrants for us and that we have the channel. Look at Germany and France? Ayyyy lmao, no natural borders to prevent the wrong'un refugees screwing up their nation.
     
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    And in London some part are like the Pakistan.
     
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    Individualism is a mature and calm feeling, which disposes each citizen to isolate himself from the mass of his fellows and to draw apart with his family and friends; so that, having created a small society to his image, he willingly leaves the large society at itself.

    Not only does democracy make every man forget his ancestors, but it hides his descendants and separates his contemporaries; it throws him back forever upon himself and threatened to confine him entirely within the solitude of his own heart.

    Each of them thus sidelined, is a stranger to the fate of all the others; his children and his private friends constitute to him the whole human race; As for the rest of his fellow citizens, it is next to them but he does not see them; it affects and does not feel them; he exists only in himself and for himself, and if he still has a family, we can say at least he has no fatherland.
     
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    What's your point, monsieur? We're in the same rough sea except France's boat has got more holes in it.
     
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    He is saying he is for immigration, but only if the salaries they earn are higher.
     
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    Well that's some great wishy, washy bullshit. I act for the benefit of my nation and the people in it, something you will never understand as a Frenchman. Either pay your way or stay out.
     

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