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Anti-EU Sentiment Thread

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by BMD, May 21, 2016.

  1. BMD

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    Well Turkey will eventually join anyway. May as well point out to people where the EU project is headed sooner rather than later.
     
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    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/72...bt-Sturgeon-Greece-EU-public-spending-deficit

    Scotland’s basket case economy is WORSE than Greece – and rest of UK funds cash black hole

    SCOTLAND has the highest public spending deficit in the European Union beating Greece to take top spot - and taxpayers in the rest of the UK are having to help plug the economic gaps.


    While the rest of the UK has faced years of belt-tightening research carried out by the TaxPayers' Alliance reveals that the Scottish deficit, at 9.5 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP), is twice that of the rest of the nation.

    The Taxpayers' Alliance said Scotland's overspending is such a chronic problem that the issue needs tackling irrespective of the independence question, as the country ran up a fiscal deficit of £14.8bn in 2015-16.

    And the pressure group said an independent Scotland would have to carry out drastic measures to balance its books including cutting all spending on police, transport, and agriculture, increase basic rate income tax to 39 per cent and double VAT to 40 per cent.

    In addition, health spending would also have to be cut by 82 per cent.

    Scotland offers its students free university places, free personal care for needy over 65s and free prescriptions.

    By contrast, students in England have to pay tuition fees, elderly care is means-tested and prescriptions cost £8.40

    John O'Connell, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said, "The Scottish government has been relying on an unsustainable situation, depending on English subsidies to plug an ever-increasing deficit.

    "It is crucial that spending is reined in so that taxpayers across the country - current and future - aren't saddled with high tax bills and crippling debts."


    The criticism came as research from the TaxPayers Alliance revealed the Scottish deficit - £14.8bn in 2015-16 - equates to 9.5 per cent of GDP.

    As the EU deems any deficit over three per cent of GDP "excessive", an independent Scotland would have to make massive cuts to meet stringent terms.
     
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    More evidence why the EU is stupid.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ade-deal-meltdown-canadian-minister-walks-out

    EU-Canada trade deal in crisis as Canadian minister walks out
    President of European parliament makes last-ditch bid to save talks as Chrystia Freeland announces ‘failure’ of Ceta over Wallonia objections


    A landmark trade deal between the European Union and Canada is in meltdown, after Canada’s trade minister walked out of talks with the Belgian regional parliament that has been blocking the deal.
     
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    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Since the trade was signed (few days later). More evidence that you are shortsighted and well....
     
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    I was illustrating the point that one small group can block an entire trade deal under EU rules, making trade deals harder not easier to negotiate.
     
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    It's a good start, but lots more needs to be done. A unified foreign policy at the political level will be the way to go.
     
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    Yes but for the first time UK didn't sabotaged the step, he he Brexit effect....
     
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    They no longer have power over the EU, especially when they are under attack by the EU to initiate Article 50.
     
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    Yawn. The EU is just a slightly re-adjusted version of Europe 1944. Invasion by deception.
     
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    https://us.yahoo.com/news/erdogan-warns-turkey-could-open-gates-migrants-pushed-085927317.html

    Erdogan warns Turkey could open gates for migrants if pushed by EU
    By Daren Butler,Reuters 2 hours 31 minutes ago
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    ISTANBUL (Reuters) - President Tayyip Erdogan warned on Friday that Turkey could open its gates for migrants to Europe if pushed into a corner by the European Union, a day after European lawmakers voted for a temporary halt to EU membership talks with Ankara.

    Members of the European Parliament voted for a non-binding motion on Thursday urging the European Commission and national governments to institute what they acknowledge would be a largely symbolic freeze in negotiations because of Turkey's "disproportionate" reaction to July's failed coup.

    Brussels has been treading a delicate line with Turkey. Despite its increased concerns over human rights and press freedoms, it needs Turkish cooperation to keep down the number of refugees and migrants reaching Europe from its shores.

    "If you go any further, these border gates will be opened. Neither me nor my people will be affected by these empty threats," Erdogan told a congress on womens' justice in Istanbul, in reaction to Thursday's vote.

    "It wouldn't matter if all of you approved the (European parliament) vote," he said, in comments broadcast live.

    More than 1.3 million people arrived in Europe last year, triggering bitter disputes between EU member states over how to handle them. The migrant deal with Turkey, though criticized by rights groups, has reduced the influx via Turkey to a trickle.

    Turkey says it is home to the world's largest refugee population, housing some 2.7 million Syrians and 300,000 Iraqis.

    EU governments are unlikely to take heed of the European Parliament vote. Austria has led calls to stop Turkey's membership talks but Germany, France and most other EU states for now back continued engagement and fear putting at risk Erdogan's collaboration on migration.

    Erdogan also said a controversial ruling party proposal that could allow men accused of sexual abuse to avoid sentence, which was withdrawn for review this week, had not prepared carefully, and believed that the issue would be brought back to parliament with a wider consensus.

    The proposal would have allowed sentencing to be indefinitely postponed in cases of sexual abuse committed "without force, threat or deception" before Nov. 16, 2016, if the perpetrator married the victim.

    The government said the bill was meant to remedy the situation of men sent to jail after they married girls under the age of 18, in religious ceremonies and with family consent. It rejected suggestions the plan amounted to an "amnesty for rape".
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ars-built-outside-u-s/?utm_term=.e0d7a3991d1d

    This should put them in a fundamentally weaker position for Brexit negotiations too. If they're already having to move automaker jobs to the US, they won't want to have to move some of what's left to the UK too. So hell, maybe we will even get that free trade after all.
     
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