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Anti-EU Sentiment Thread

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by BMD, May 21, 2016.

  1. OnePunchMan

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    Depends who gets in where. If Le Pen gets in in France, that's basically the EU over. And she's due to win the first round at present.
     
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    But will lose the 2nd.
     
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    Le Pen will not do any such thing there are far too many drawbacks to leave EU especially for france since they are a big pillar of EU and use the Euro.

    unlike britain which was only half way in anyway also brexit hasnt happened yet they are still negotiating the terms of separation( i mean say is scotland or ireland wanted to stay in and separate from UK i bet britian would be less than happy about it and may reconsider) and it is still not set in stone only a referdum has occured we will see how it plays out.
     
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    Only if you want to lose the third.

    You're so fucking dumb if you don't see what's actually happening here. Oh wow, we're part of the EU. Who is the fucking EU? Go on, who are they?
     
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    The only drawbacks to leaving the EU is the fact it exists in the first place. It's Nazism remodelled to political correctness. The takeover of Europe without a single shot fired.
     
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    takeover by who germany?????
    sadly you have forgotten the only good thing the brits imperial rule gave us the lesson of unity without EU you are nothing you have no power of collective bargaining no one to back you up.
    no country can bully a EU member and get away with it because they have the full weight of EU and if say brexit doesn happen and ireland or maybe scotland decides to leave the UK would be weakened further economically and loose territory would you still think this was beneficial???
    i doubt it and never forget united you stand divided you fall
    and if you fear muslims then why are so many pakistanis settled in UK why arent they being deported and why are there so many so called pakistani lord in your house of common and yet UK supports jehadi and kowtows the pakistani line its like the entire nation has gone retard and on path to self destruction.

    France has always been and always will be strong and independent whether in terms of foreign policy or just the society in general they were miles ahead of UK in imposing Burkha ban and have made the jehadis clear to shove their religion in their asses and keep it to themselves and they never bow down to the muslims while on the other hand the libtard or retard brit couldnt stop licking muslim behinds and those who oppose them are mostly neo nazis who basically hate everyone except white christians i say bring back the IRA and set anjem choudhary's house on fire.
     
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    We're still in NATO and the G7 and we're still the 5th largest economy in the world.

    The EU does enough bullying of EU members by itself.

    Scotland has a 10% deficit. They're fiscally incapable of independence. They don't even have a currency without us. They can't join the Euro without meeting the criteria of a sub-3% deficit and sub-60% of GDP debt. Their last bid for independence was based on a $113/bbl price of oil, continued use of the £ and direct accession to the EU. Pure fantasy.

    http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2016/08/2132
    http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0050/00504649.pdf

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    Only Northern Ireland is actually in the UK, ironically because of Scottish people who moved to Northern Ireland. We'd have given it back a century ago if it wasn't for them threatening violence if we did.

    There are twice as many Muslims in France. Yeah, how many recent terror attacks have there been in France recently? I lost count. Yes they really have the situation under control and banning the burka was just pouring petrol on an already raging fire. And all those Muslims Germany took in will get EU citizenship in a few years time and be free to join their brothers in France. 20 million Muslims in France by 2050 out of a 75 million population.

    Kowtows the Pakistani line? Do we? Really?

    So if unity is always so great, why did India go for independence?
     
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    I don't understand your obession with muslims in France. There are no official datas concerning their number,and the numbers coming from here and there are pure speculations. Where does this projection comes from ? Out of your bottom ?

    BTW,I would be more worried about all the shariah no go zones popping up everywhere,like the parallel shariah courts popping up everywhere and the radicalisation of the British muslim community and the fact that the authorities let with impunity gangs raping thousands of girls without doing anything,and how many such cases are hidden to the public ?

    In fact,I am surprised of you being obssesed with muslims as I thought Britishers would be more worried about their failing NHS and the quality of their public services which are failing each years passing. But yeah,muslims are more important.
     
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    http://www.ijesd.org/papers/29-D438.pdf

    Whose had the most terror attacks? As regards the raping, perhaps your police just haven't noticed yet. I fail to imagine how you can have twice as many Muslims, much more terror attacks and yet no rapes.

    Uncontrolled unemployed and low income migration from the EU and elsewhere is to blame for the state of the NHS. Obviously giving £10bn/year net to the EU doesn't help either.
     
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-billion-brexit-divorce-bill-sir-ivan-rogers/

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ave-pay-penny-leave-european-union-say-peers/

    Looks like we will be getting that free trade deal after all, unless the EU wants a £60bn budget black hole.

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    Such statistics vary from institutes,some would estimate the muslim population at between 4 and 5 millions,others 6 and more,and so on. You could make your own opinion by seeing the statistics of the number of foreigners in France,as the vast majority of the muslims in France are foreign and that not all foreigners are muslims. Oh and BTW,the foreign immigrant population in % is bigger in the UK than in France.



    You are so naive to think that the UK is safe from any islamist attacks,as it's seen as a major crusader nation. You probably forgot the 7/7 attacks and the murder of Lee Rigby.

    The Police in France operates to protect the public. We wouldn't have looked elsewhere when thousands of girls were abused,just not to be labelled as racists.
    Social services in France operate to protect the youngest. We wouldn't have looked elsewhere when thousands of girls were abused,just not to be labelled as racists.

    I don't see Police protecting young girls,but protecting radical islamists spread their hate on British streets.

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    Nothing to do with Tory cuts,of course,it's all because of EU migrants. Cuts to other public services,fire services,police etc. are probably the fault of EU migrants.
     
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    @BMD I really hope that the UK nevers suffer the kind of attacks we suffered,otherwise ;

    Why British front-line police fear a much higher toll if a terror attack happens here in the UK, by border police expert CHRIS HOBBS



    • Border security expert warns terror attack would have higher toll in the UK
    • Paris can easily put hundreds of armed police on the streets within minutes
    • In France, all 278,000 police officers carry guns but in UK only 6,000 do
    • Chris Hobbs warns minutes count if lives are to be saved in terror attack


    As the grotesque carnage in Paris unfolded, most British front-line police officers will have come to just one chilling conclusion: the death toll in a similar outrage here would be many times greater.

    For while the French can throw hundreds of armed police on to the streets of Paris within minutes, and thousands within an hour or so, we simply can’t.

    Like a fire sweeping through an occupied house, minutes count if lives are to be saved in terrorist atrocities.

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    In France, all 278,000 police officers carry guns. The corresponding figure in Britain is just 6,000 (pictured: British armed police officers in St Pancras International Train Station yesterday afternoon)
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    Not only do the gunmen have to be located, they also have to be contained and – if necessary – confronted. This can be done only by armed officers.

    In France, all 278,000 police officers carry guns. The corresponding figure in Britain is just 6,000, so the assurances from the Home Secretary, Theresa May, that procedures are ‘in place’ to deal with rapidly moving terrorist situations are greeted with deep scepticism.


    Most police officers attending terrorist incidents are virtual spectators until an armed response vehicle (ARV) can be summoned to the scene.

    The lack of ARVs has caused real concern among officers, particularly those in smaller, more rural forces, who believe they and the public are being placed at intolerable risk on a daily basis.

    One officer from a county force told me that his nearest ARV would normally be at least 20 minutes away – often even further. No need to imagine how much damage can be done in 20 minutes by terrorists with automatic weapons.

    But forces who want to expand their firearms teams are having difficulty recruiting in the wake of the high-profile police shootings of Azelle Rodney and Mark Duggan.

    Although both men were armed criminals, the officer who shot Rodney was tried (and acquitted) for unlawful killing and those involved in the Duggan shooting were subjected to a three-and-a-half-year inquiry before being exonerated.

    Is it any wonder armed units are struggling to attract and retain good officers?

    Meanwhile, claims that Britain has ‘strong border controls’ smack of utter complacency to officers working at our air and sea ports.

    We may be an island nation but the thousands arriving from war-torn regions in the backs of lorries and even private cars and caravans show we are far from secure.

    It would also be wrong to imagine that guns are not being trafficked across our borders.

    Theresa May’s creation, the UK Border Force, has suffered cutbacks and reorganisation.

    Former customs officers, who have been reluctantly absorbed into it, are concerned that the importation of firearms and component parts of firearms is being gravely neglected.

    Many customs officers skilled in detecting smuggled weaponry, have been, to their fury, deployed permanently to passport controls where, despite Home Office denials, the priority is still avoiding queues.

    Another very real threat emanates from our prisons where extreme Muslim inmates exercise huge influence and where dangerous criminals have converted to the most virulent form of Islam.

    Shortly before retiring, I studied some of these individuals: the prospect of them returning to our streets chills my blood.

    The simple fact is Britain’s police – brilliantly professional as they remain – are spread far too thinly. A security review, ordered by May, is currently under way.

    Those on the front line hope that someone will listen to their views.

    They are not holding their breath.

    Why British police fear a much higher toll if attack happens in UK | Daily Mail Online
     

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