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Anti-EU Sentiment Thread

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by BMD, May 21, 2016.

  1. halloweene

    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Godwin point...
    Rofle, citing thom locke now, well known conspirationist... More and more ridiculous every intervention...
     
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    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Not really, I'm just delivering the truth. And sadly when two attempts to dominate Europe have already been made, Godwin is already invoked.
     
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    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Doesn't matter, we don't mind the non-trouble-making immigrants who are beneficial.

    Didn't say it was safe, just said that we have had far less serious ones.

    And every single one of those people will have a file at MI5.

    Oh and the NHS was never cut, we now spend twice as much on the NHS as in 1997 adjusted for inflation. Explain that away. It's the affect of the equivalent of 100 years of net migration in just 10 years.
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    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Completely different levels of training. Those 6,000 armed police in Britain are not ordinary cops with guns, they are more akin to special forces. And they are not armed with wooden WWI guns, they are armed with Heckler & Koch MP5SF, HK416s and G36C carbines and bullet proof riot shields.



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    And if those guys fail, then we bring in the army and SAS, SBS, SRS and E-squadron.

    Hundred of thousands of citizens in the countryside with rifles and shotguns too.
     
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    Vergennes Strategist Staff Member MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The guys you posted are more like specialist firearm officers or counter terrorist specialist firearm officers,nothing to do with the common armed officer patrolling in his car or responding when common officers need firearm officers.

    Meanwhile,common officers in France are being supplied with new equipments like assault rifles (G-36),heavy helmets,plate carriers and protective shields to cope with any major terror event as they will be intervening first. Every patrol car is going to get supplied with those protection equipments. They are soon going to also get HK UMPs 9.

    The police in England and Wales is struggling to recruit armed officers. At the same time,common forces in England also struggle to recruit unarmed officers,good luck.

    You can find every datas about this on gov.uk

    Sure.
     
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    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    There are 6,500 CTSFO, SCO19, CO19 and SFO. AFOs are not included in those figures. And then there's also the UKAEA police who aren't included, who guard nuclear establishments, a further 700.

    UMPs, B***h please. Not much good if the terrorists have body armour.

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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/number-guns-uk-record-high-6509872

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    So the police look after the cities and the people keep the countryside terrorist free until the police get there.
     
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  7. halloweene

    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Because you often saw terrorists with body armour? Very discreet! :jester:. Ever heard of UMP7 (and e.g. DM11 cartridge)
     
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    A .45ACP still won't work as well as a 4.7x30mm.

    The DM11 is for the MP7 not the UMP. The MP7 is what the British cop is using above.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MP7
     
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    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Right about MP7. on the other hand, no a .45 is NOT an armour piercing ammo.
     
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    Vergennes Strategist Staff Member MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    You are a funny guy. Do you really think that if a terror attack occurs in the countryside,people will get out with weapons and take out the threat ?
    No. They will close their doors and call the Police. What do you think the first responders will do ? When most are patrolling alone and barely armed with a pepper spray and a baton. At best some are armed with tasers.
    They will stay away and wait til an armed response team able to deal with terror attacks arrives on the scene.

    If I remember @Abingdonboy said that near where he lives there was an armed siege and it took something like 50 minutes before armed officers reached the scene.

    Anyway,did you know the UK is among the last in Europe when it comes to the number of owned weapons per capita,so what is it to brag about ?
     
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    Litterally all of the above only exist to protect LONDON (they are all Met police).



    Guess the rest of us have to fend for ourselves......


    + I can't tell if you are joking about the armed county folk but an example that jumps to mind is Derrick Bird's shooting rampage in Cumbria, he killed 18 people in multiple locations and it took the police more than 2 hours to locate him and by the time they did he had already killed himself.
     
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    But not everyone in the country with a gun is a loon.
     
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    Abingdonboy Captain Technical Analyst

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    I didn't mean to imply that, I was using it as an example of the non-existent armed police presence outside of London/major towns. It took >2 hours for the police to catch up with him and by that time he had already killed himself, I dare say he could have continued on his rampage for a while longer without the police getting near him.

    + do you remember Raoul Moat? I remember that debacly quite vividly.
     
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    Raoul Moat was a different case, he went into hiding, that isn't the same as an active threat.

    The Cumbria shooter was also very sneaky, it wasn't that police took two hours to respond, it's that he was driving around in a car, which hadn't yet been ID'd from one place to another, shooting 1 or 2 people and then moving on. Not really the same as a Paris or Mumbai style attack. The guy would have lasted just as long in France, or even the US. E.g. you saw how long and how many resources it took to find the Boston Marathon bomber.
     
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