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Anti-EU Sentiment Thread

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by BMD, May 21, 2016.

  1. BMD

    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Boko Haram in Nigeria and Chechen separatists are our fault too?
     
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    IndiranChandiran BANNED BANNED

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    btw your bosom pal - randomradio or some other busybody has locked down your recent creation .Now , either the mods are muslim lovers or anti Irish.Both - would be a killer .:D

    Take your pick , O'Hara
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    You can't subsidize companies to make your trade value better.

    Regardless, they are already beating Japan and S Korea.

    Their smartphone companies have already captured a significant market share even in India.
    http://www.business-standard.com/ar...india-s-smartphone-market-117010600527_1.html
     
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    Picard Lt. Colonel RESEARCHER

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    You don't stop belonging to an ethnic group just because you are in a diaspora. Croatians in diaspora are more numerous than in Croatia itself. That being said, it is true that Jews were persecuted for their religious beliefs. And antisemitism is quite strong - maybe ironically - in both Christianity and Islam. And Islam's holy texts are more antisemitic than Mein Kampf is.

    All early Christians were Jews by ethnicity. It is clear that Christianity never was a Jewish religious "sect", but you are confusing religion and ethnicity here. Not all Jews were Jews by faith, even before Christ came (there were Baal worshippers, idolaters etc.). What I am saying is that without St. Paul, Christianity would not have spread from Judea. He was the one who brought Christianity to Greeks and other non-Jews.
     
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    BMD Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Not under EU rules, but you forget, we won't be in the EU.

    Not here.

    Let's look at the number here.

    https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...enue-income_en


    0.3% VAT is £2bn, excise duties on non-EU imports to the UK amount to ~£50bn. The EU takes this on top of the £10bn/year net fee, the £2.5bn in higher education subsidees for its citizens at UK universities, £0.75bn in JSA to EU citizens, and £0.25bn in overseas child benefits. So what's that now? £65.5bn/year before we even include the added burden on public services, HNS, education and the cost of legislation. The revenue on the £133bn of physical taxable exports to the EU only amounts to £35bn and if no deal is struck we can impose import duties on their £300bn worth of exports to us for another ~£50bn.

    https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/HMRC-Annual-Report-and-Accounts-2015-16.pdf
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I'm referring to the WTO.
     
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    Not all subsidees are illegal and you can give tax-breaks, cheap loans, indemnity coverage etc. Sponsor R&D, money to support staff training and apprenticeships. Then you can get around subsidy rules altogether by the government buying a small stake in the company.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    When it comes to subsidies, a country can have the subsidy revoked or increase import taxes to remove the effect of subsidies. So it depends from country to country.

    UK can apply subsidies only if another country doesn't object.
     
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    Exactly. And it collects full tariffs post-Brexit.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I don't think you've got it. It means you lose all the powers that you've had acting under the EU.
     
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    What powers LOL? Under the EU, the EU took all our import duties, tariffs and part of our VAT. Import duties on £300bn worth of non-EU imports. If they want no deal, we'll take import duties and tariffs on their £300bn too. And their member states will get nothing, because the EU will take it all.

    I'm no longer worried or scared.
     
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    Once you are under the WTO, you can't do much against the EU. Your citizens will end up paying more for the goods they buy. Of course, British industries will leave the UK, setup shop in the EU and then sell stuff you originally manufactured back to you.

    You should be scared. If you end up in a tariff war, British industries will leave.

    Of course, you can always collapse your currency by 50% like the Russians did. But then your per capita income will reduce by half as well, and your economy will be competing with Spain. Then you can take the next 100 years trying to get your economy back to 2015 levels.

    Your entire economy is now dependent on getting a trade deal by 2019.
     
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    Sure we can, we can collect import duties on their £300bn worth of exports to us from the EU + the tariffs on the £300bn worth of imports from outside the EU.

    We don't need a trade deal, in fact I'd prefer not to get one.
     
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    Nope, since the statistics doesn't talk about refugees only, but foreigners that moved to Germany, which includes people of other EU countries as well.
    Crimes of refugees are only high for pocket theft ans smaller cases, btw entering the country without correct documents are included in the statistics as well, so they don't need to have done a crime in Germany itself.
     

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