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Arjun MBT News & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Army' started by Indian_Idol, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. X_Killer

    X_Killer Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Do you really think that T-90 is not suitable to Counter PAKISTAN's T80.
    You are underestimating T-90 against pakistani T80.

    You must need to learn about tanks and than compare them.

    http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t90.htm
    http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t80.htm
    http://www.military-today.com/tanks/al_khalid.htm
    http://www.military-today.com/tanks/arjun_mk2.htm

    For ATGMs, we also have more superior ATGMs than PAKISTAN.
    And their tanks are more vulnerable
     
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    ashkum2278 FULL MEMBER

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    Our latest T-90 tanks are coming with out APS. How will these tanks defend themselves against ATGMS? Majority of the electronics are malfunctioning due to excessive heat and no air conditioning. Sab kuch bhagwan bharose hai. Its a pity. Our goverment does not value the lives of our soldiers and makes statements that the soldiers are being paid to lay down their lives for the country. We have guns and tanks in large numbers but no ammunition. Even for the little reserves that we have their are no fuses. Even Pakistan with limited budget and weapons is better stocked and probably more efficient that the Indian army.

    The italian bahu and the congress party have eaten into the countries defence establishment like termites. Indian defense surely has a structure but no substance. Andar se sab kuch khokla hai.

    About time we come out of this petty politics, neglect and corruption. Its time we give the defense forces their due.
     
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  3. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Which ATGMs are you talking about? ERA takes care of majority. As for tandem warheads, even APS may not be able to protect the tank from multiple threats.

    As for how the tanks operate, you will be surprised that rarely there is expected to be a slew of ATGMs being fired en-masse on tank formations.
     
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    Pakistan ATGMS such as American TOW2 , Alcotán-100 , HJ8. A sper this T-90MS is coming without APC.
     
  5. kaku

    kaku Major Technical Analyst

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    Check the Q&A of Lok Sabha.

    The new order is of T-90 S not MS.
     
  6. ashkum2278

    ashkum2278 FULL MEMBER

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    Even WIKI says T-90 SM/MS

    In September 2016, Defence Acquisition Council cleared an order for 464 more T-90MS tanks from Russia at a cost of ₹13,448 crore (US$2.1 billion).
     
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    These r not indian T90S, our T90 has never faced real enemies, indian T90 is inferior to russian T90, do u call the ragtag militias as formations?, T90 will not withstand Pakistani anti tank missiles, T90 is only good in mass mobilizations, as a single unit it will fail in front of Pakistani T80, only tank Pakistanis have to struggle is Arjun tanks as it has great protection & more power, T90 is a dud in front of American Abrahams or merkava or leclark, T90 works only in mass formations, Russians have superior T72 versions than indian T90S, lol
     
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    I know it sir, please don't compare Russian T90M & other versions from Indian version T90S, tanks provided to India r all stripped down monkey models, which has less powered engines, lower protection, night blind, need more maintenence we have bought them only because Pakistan has T80 brought from Ukraine, If I was ever been a brigadier who has been posted in jaisalmer armoured corps, I will first select Arjun mk2.
     
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    GuardianRED Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    And the Ranting continues !!! ....damn that is just sad!!
    Unless u have detail of this so call stripped down, night blind etc etc etc ... all you are doing this ranting and trolling in all the threads !!!
     
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    kakathiya FULL MEMBER

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    Okay sir I can't help, now we r upgrading our T90S to Russian standard spending billions of $ now if it was excellent y upgrading frequently, when the same people object to Arjun MBT up gradation.
     
  11. Agent_47

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    Wikis are referring reports written by bozo journalists. DAC cleared next batch of T-90 tanks, thats it.
     
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    Do you have any Data to back you calm...... Yes or no???? .... what is Russian Standard??, Tank that are purchased in 1998, you are saying NOT to upgrade???

    Till then you are still Ranting

    who are these so called people that object to Arjun??? You do know that the Arjun Mk1 delivery will be completed and that is the Mk2 that is been developed and soon this will be in production
     
  13. X_Killer

    X_Killer Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I request you to describe it in detail with some credible sources.
    For your kind information, the standards are described on the basis of user requirements. Russian tanks are not capable to beat down Indian variant in Indian warzone terrains. Every country modifis their warmachines according to their user requirements mainly based on weather and terrain conditions.
     
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  14. kaku

    kaku Major Technical Analyst

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    That is untrue, T-90 AM employ hunter killer capabilities while T-90 S doesnt. And that is only a basic difference.

    T-90 AM is actually light years ahead of T-90 S.
     
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    X_Killer Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    T-90AM is the most latest variant improved on the basis of their Syrian experience.
    The advanced fire control system with two sights provided to the gunner and the commander means hunter-killer. And it is also available in T-90MS.
    For opting any stuff for basic tank is purely depends on user interest.

    http://www.deagel.com/Armored-Vehicles/T-90S_a000369001.aspx
    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?shop=dae&modele=release&prod=178640&cat=3

    I have no issues that t-90am is latest one and all Russian T-90s are not T-90AM. But they are not more favorable with Indian conditions. We have different areas with different terrain conditions whereas Russia do not have wide variety of them.
     
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