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Arjun Vs AL- Khalid.

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by SpArK, Apr 26, 2010.

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  1. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    May be we should have two Tanks one for the mountainous regions and one for the deserts and pains
     
  2. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    There is virtually no tank that can scale a mountainous terrain. Tanks are for deserts, marshlands, and plains.
     
  3. flanker143

    flanker143 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    that won't happen bcoz of IA's new fmbt demand ....!!
     
  4. True_Indian

    True_Indian 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I googled it and the informations say tanks are used in mountainous terrain also.
     
  5. True_Indian

    True_Indian 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Tailchopper Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Al Khalid VS Arjun MBTs
    Arjun a has a bigger engine but weights over 13 tonnes more than Al Khalid.

    Speed is almost the same of both tanks.

    Arjun has a 120mm main rifled tank gun which has to be loaded "mannually" where Al Khalid has an Automatic Loading 125mm smooth bore gun.

    The operational range is almost ideantical of both vehicles.

    Both vehicles use Night vision and Thermal imaging devices to acquire Targets.

    Al Khalid uses Data link which can communicate Tank footage and vital coordinates with other units around ie UAV/UCAVs , APCs , Fighter Jets , Cobra Gunships and artilliry command centers.

    Arjun has no Data link , not that i am aware of at least !

    Both vehicles carry similar 7.62mm and 12.7mm Machine guns.

    Both can fire Guided Missiles from their main gun.

    Al Khalid has a power-to-weight ratio of 26.66 hp/tonne gives acceleration from 0 to 32 km/h (0 to 20 mph) in 10 seconds and a maximum speed of 70 km/h, the speed and agility also helping to improve survivability which is greater than that of Arjun's.

    Al Khalid has a Rate of fire/minute of 8 where Arjun's Rate of fire/minute is 6.

    Al Khalid has been in Mass production which Arjun is yet to see , so far as many as 220 Al Khalid and Al Khalid 01 have been delivered to Pakistan Army.

    Al Khalid takes only 3 crew to operate the Machine while Arjun Takes 4 hence making it more expensive to operate , heavy and risks more lives.

    My Two cents.
     
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  8. Hashu

    Hashu Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    arjun has better armor, better avionics and a better tunnel! plus it's 100% india, so india can build as many as we want! Arjun mk.2 is almost ready, with a 1500hp engine, missle systems and few structural changes! :)
     
  9. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Care to explain how we can make a tank stealthy? Every round fired will expose the tank's position due to intense heat generated in each round's explosion at the muzzle.
     
  10. Hashu

    Hashu Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    it's better to be the first one to fire the shot and take the element of suprise!
     
  11. blackflame

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    first i ASK U TO CORRECT THE SPELLING FOR ARJUN............ which has been highlighted

    arjun is auto loaded not manual check the first page of this thread for links

    can u please give me the link which shows the type of missiles that Al khalid can fire from its main gun

    check out the first page where the acceleration and the max speed of both the tank is same even though arjun is in 58 ton category
     
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  12. Hashu

    Hashu Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    don't refere Arjun as Arjunk unless you want us to refere Al Khalid to All Krap...even though that might be true, it's very immature and idiotic
     
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  13. CONNAN

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    From all the tall claims made by Pakistan Al Khalid does seem like a good tank, but one cant really is sure until it is deployed in actual battlefield: (Pattens in 65 war). Further more if it is that superior a tank then why aren’t Chinese inducting it into their services? After all it is a renamed Chinese T 90-II M tank with Pak color schemes. Instead Chinese are going for T 98.Although cautious, we need not really worry about Pakistan’s armored. Most of it is T55s and T59s. Only modern tanks in their inventory are 300 T80UD, unspecified number of Chinese T88 and now Al Khalid which they cannot field a substantial number for next few years. Even then India would have a numerical superiority. Also with phasing out Vijayantas and replacing them with T90s and upgraded T72s, we would be qualitatively at par if not better.

    T72s can be upgraded into T90s at nominal cost of 2.5 crore rupees. (Recent selection of Israel in this regard is very interesting)Finally no matter how strong a tank column, is not effective without complementary air cover. This has been demonstrated over and over again. From Longewala to Gulf war to name the few. Pakistan’s strategists conspicuously seem to have been ignoring this fact. India would have complete air superiority in any future conflict with Pakistan. Thus I am not really worried by these Al Khalids. What I’m really anxious about is development of Light Attack Helicopters armed with Nags, so that we can bid an appropriate Al Vida to these Al Khalids.
     
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  14. desiman

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    That shows that you know nothing about both tanks, I cant even tell you how many mistakes or deliberate mistakes you have made in this post. If you dont know anything about tanks, dont blurt out junk just for the sake of it.
     
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  15. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    please correct the mistakes in your post......
     
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