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Army set to place order for 248 more arjun main battle tanks

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  1. Indian Tiger

    Indian Tiger Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    BANGALORE: The much-maligned Arjun Main Battle Tank is poised to get a fresh lease of life, with the Indian Army set to order 248 more of India's first indigenously-built tanks, a decision that will also give a much-needed shot in the arm to the country's beleaguered tank fleet.

    "We are definitely expecting more orders, at least a minimum of 248 tanks of the Mark-II version. The Ordnance Factory Board has been instructed by the ministry of defence to initiate action for the procurement of the Mark-II version," P. Sivakumar, director, Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment, told the Economic Times.

    The order, which could be placed in late-2011 itself, will come as a huge boost to the Arjun production line at the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadhi, on the outskirts of Chennai, as the same was expected to be terminated due to a lack of interest shown by the Indian Army.

    So far, the Army has placed an order for 248 tanks of the Mark-I and Mark-II versions.

    The Mark-II version of the Arjun MBT is currently undergoing its critical summer trials in Pokhran, Rajasthan, conducted by the country's nodal defence lab, DRDO, while the winter trials are expected to take place later in the year. The defence research establishment expects to get the new orders from the end user - the Army - once the current trials conclude.

    "If the trials go well, particularly relating to missile firing, there is no doubt that further orders will be placed. There is a commitment given by the deputy chief of Army staff, if the new improvements are incorporated successfully" Sivakumar said.

    The June trials have already seen the Arjun MBT Mark-II tested with a number of technical improvements, including command panoramic sight and uncooled thermal image. According to Sivakumar, a further 40 technological improvements are to be tested, including a new transmission control system and new fuel tanks.

    'We are planning the first phase of the end user trials by October or November for the missile and other design improvements," he said.

    The Army's decision to induct greater numbers of the Arjun MBT is a significant turnaround from its earlier reluctance to do so. However, with the military's 4,000-strong tank arsenal consisting largely of more than 2,400 obsolete T-72 tanks and transfer of technology issues with Russia relating to the T-90, has forced it to take a re-look at the Arjun.

    The tank has had its fair share of detractors within the country's military establishment.

    After being in development hell for more than 30 years and at a substantial cost of Rs 300-crore, the Arjun MBT programme had come under severe flak for cost overruns and its failure to meet the Indian Army's combat requirements, leading to speculation that it could never be the mainstay of the Indian Army's Armoured Corps.

    But ever since comprehensively outgunning and outrunning the T-90, India's current flagship battle tank in 2010, the DRDO has been positioning the Arjun MBT as the backbone of the country's armoured fighting units.

    Defended the programme, the defence establishment also laid part of the blame for the project delays on the Indian military , stating that they had to be "realistic" in their demands.

    "'But while we welcome all inputs and guidelines, we also feel the need for the Services to firm up realistic requirements at the earliest, so we may properly plan our project requirements," Dr VK Saraswat, scientific advisor to the defence minister said last month.

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...jun-main-battle-tanks/articleshow/9119089.cms
     
  2. SpArK

    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Good to see army having confidence in mk-2 Arjun.
     
  3. Rudrakx

    Rudrakx Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Great news !
    ?? what does this mean ?
     
  4. smestarz

    smestarz Lt. Colonel REGISTERED

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    That is good news.
    Frankly on a personal note, I might be more interested in seeing a lighter weight tank that sacrifices protection for very good speed
    Something like Ferrari of Tanks.
    I know presently there are ATGMS and guns capable of defeating any armour, so technically a tank even thought its heavily protected is easy to be destroyed but what if the tank is heavily armed with good protection and light.
    IF the weight is put around say 35 tons and with the same engine as Arjun is using, you might get a high power to weight ratio (double almost) and this might be termed as a "flying tank" capable of high speeds and perhaps an ideal weapon for flanking attacks as it has speed to its advantage
    (this in terms that the air to air scene is NEUTRAL or controlled by us..
     
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  5. GUNS-N- ROSES

    GUNS-N- ROSES Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    a panoraic sight is generally used in tank and arty guns. it is capable of 360 degree horizontal movement. it helps in earlt detection and coupled with FCR helps improve accuracy.

    regarding uncooled thermal imaging u can jus google buddy.
     
  6. Nirvana

    Nirvana Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    248 MK 1 Ordered , And Now 248 MK 2

    Army Should Order the Arjuns More to Fill the Numbers Since T-55 And Many of T-72's will be Phased Out Soon
     
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    GUNS-N- ROSES Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    sorry T-72 arenot going anywhere. there is already upgradation planned.
     
  8. kaku

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    I disscuss this thing last year also on Pak Defence Forum that whether we needed Arjun in mass or not. And it is fill with so much healthy disscussion.

    Why we needed this tank? The main purpose of this tank use in the Thar Desert, we cannot put on LAC or LOC because of mountain terrain. And we donot have so much logistic support and air support that we use this tank on foreign soils.So, what we do its so much number in thar?

    I also want to add that today's world is changing very rapidly. Apply funding on a single tank is a foolish thing. We should develop a genaralise tank, that after its retirement, its chassis can be used in other purpose e.g. AA gun, for tank killer etc.
    like BMP is a good move for this step.
     
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    I would'nt go to a head on showdown with a light tank but can use hit and run tactics good for light armoured ajile and small:yahoo:
     
  10. GUNS-N- ROSES

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    it depends on type of doctrine followed by the army and QRS listed by army.

    it is trade off between speed and protection which is to be decided by user.

    i m sure arjun is manufactured as per GSR given by army.
     
  11. flanker143

    flanker143 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    very good news indeed......congrats team arjun.
     
  12. ColdPlay

    ColdPlay Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Arjun MK2 can take on AL Khalid 2 easily.
     
  13. jagjitnatt

    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Guys, guys.
    The article isn't saying that Army has ordered anything. It just says DRDO EXPECTS an order for Mk II. We know Mk II will be ordered, but as of now, no order has been placed.
     
  14. Nirvana

    Nirvana Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Not All The T-72's - The Initial Batches will Be Phased Out along T-55 and will Be Kept In Storage

    Only 1000 T-72's will be Upgraded

    We are Already Inducting T-90's

    More Orders of Arjuns will fill The Gap
     
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    Are there still nor pics available??? I want to see that monster!
     
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