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Article 35A: Biggest constitutional fraud in the history of India

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Levina, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    No they aren't beasts of burden, don't pass dumb comments if you don't understand the point being made. These laborers are: 1) Already looking for jobs and often end up going to other states to find jobs anyways. 2) If you know people from Haryana and UP-Bihar, you know how tough and headstrong they are capable of being; and if Kashmiris of the valley want to come down to gundagardi like mob violence and pelting stones and all that, then Hindus of the cow belt know very well how to answer that and kick their asses, as opposed to the mild mannered Pandits who were hounded out.

    And no, you really don't need a dictatorship, I clearly listed out the necessary steps which are very much doable even under a democratic framework. What part of winning majorities in assemblies through democratic elections then pushing through legislative changes sounds like a dictatorship?
     
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  2. The enlightened

    The enlightened Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Art 35A is a nice boost for the polls, especially when Congretards predictably bat for azadi and Kasmiri separatists. Unnecessary cold feet from BJP. Winning a few seats in Jammu is not as important as the hundreds it gets elsewhere.
     
  3. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The day 35A is removed, the demography of whole of kashmir and jammu will change. A very large number of Hindu girls from jammu and kashmiri Pandit girls from kashmir are married to man in rest of India. All their spouses and children will become citizens of J&K and muslims become electoral minority overnight.
     
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  4. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    which is why we should work closely with civilian governemnts of Pak to consistently weaken the PA's role. We did achieve that a bit with Nawaz. Fact is that even Imran Khan hates the Army's interference with politics. We do have allies there on this one thing- no one wants the PA back in power. As their elected governments get more powerful they will be able to talk sense to the people that count. It will take time, but it can surely happen.
     
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  5. The enlightened

    The enlightened Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    That's quite an optimistic timeline, but Inshah Allah Kashmir shall be 'assimilated' with the rest of the country in due time. We can also reduce the disproportionaltely massive budget overlay on it.
     
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  6. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The double speak of BJP is not only evident from what they have done in SC but also from the fact that Indian Election Commission has mandate in J&K. While a delimitation exercise was done all over India prior to 2013, First khangrass and now BJP have not asked for it. The demography of J&K has changed with more people living in Jammu & Ladakh regions compared to Kashmir. This delimitation exercise will end up giving more seats to Jammu & Ladakh regions than Kashmir. This will create a situation in which kashmir valley will lose its status as the king maker. Imagine BJP doing all this to please a party which had openly asked for separation from India-PDP.
    There is no civilian government in Pakistan and never will be.
     
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  7. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    I don't think Pakistan 'dying' solves any problems. We don't want another Syria on our borders. We need a liberal constituency ruling that state so that it becomes a buffer state on our borders.
     
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  8. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    There is definitely a very serious effort to grab power from PA for good. It won't happen overnight but there is an ongoing battle.
     
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  9. Himanshu Pandey

    Himanshu Pandey Don't get mad, get even. STAR MEMBER

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    2 dozen small liberal states on our western border are much better then daydreaming of pakistan being secular or liberal anytime soon or late.

    divide it in small and insignificant states and let them become dependent on India for trade and soft power... put them all under indian influence and almost 50 % of our problems will be solved.
     
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  10. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    They have laid down a system to overcome the sanction from USA. Their retd generals will now form political parties with Jihadis as partners and these retd generals will be called civilian for all practical purposes. AND ISI will ensure that they get elected everytime.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Panditji, saari problems solve ho jeyengi. They will become our littoral states. But we must keep Punjabistan alive as the Ghost who will eat up these new smaller states to ensure they remain our protectorate.
     
  12. Himanshu Pandey

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    yes but a smaller one.... so it can be threat to only these states not to us.
     
  13. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Exactly, even Panjabistan will have to survive on our goodwill bcoz it will be land locked and no supply of anything from water to gas if we decide to stop it.
     
  14. Himanshu Pandey

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    yes but to do so we need leaders with backbones and balls after modi... Modi already has its work and targets cut out.. the next PM should be capable of this..
    we can expand and apply the same middle east plan of US with better presion and planning so we get desired result and nut syria.
     
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  15. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    That is a risk, but considering that 10 years after the last general stepped out none of the political parties came to power (Nawaz is against army because of his feud with mushy and IK has genuine popular support) with Army as primary backer, there are reasons to be cautiously optimistic.
     

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