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Article 35A: Biggest constitutional fraud in the history of India

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Levina, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Modi kay baad Yogi hai. nahin toh Amit shah hai.
     
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    Himanshu Pandey Don't get mad, get even. STAR MEMBER

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    Amit Shah to nhi hai.. yogi capable nhi hai.. Fadnavis jyada behtar candidate hai.
     
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    No their is NON, It was simply brought by the President at the time and so can again be amended or scrapped on the Notification by the President of India.
    People who are saying that BJP has shown it true colors are may be not aware how heavy and Rich dividends IT WILL GIVE TO BJP IN 2019.

    PM Modi will extract the mileage safely as Nobody would question SC, And as far as the Jihadi Rats are concerned IA has some special party plans for them.

    Also the day the Article is scrapped Khangressis will jump Mia Owaisi will vomit and all the much hullah Bullah over debate will give BJP the Nationalistic tempo to further shoot up.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Let us hope what you are saying is correct.But what happens if timelines slip out of the hands of BJP like it happened in 2004?
     
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    Sir Modi Ji is Not Atal ji, Both of them are two different mind sets and persoanlities. One a Kavi and the Other a Yogi. PM Modi will never make the mistake which NDA1 made. you will see the Prime of BJP and Modi you can mark this msg.
     
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    More than you, I wish it. But what they are doing till now is-stupid. Why did they refuse to take a stand in SC and why ask for adjournment stating that they have appointed an interlocutor?Does this not show the double standards of BJP. If I go by what you have stated,BJP is also for electoral politics only and not for solving the problems of this nation. By your admission, BJP wants to delay it to 2019 to get maximum votes. So what is the difference between BJP and so called appeasement politics.
    Off topic but relevant. MII and Start up India is the biggest failure of this govt including the hotch-potch GST. The loans given under stand-up India have to set up roadside thelas and food stalls.is this what you want to see Indians doing?
     
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    Bloom 17 2nd Lieutant IDF NewBie

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    hope you are right. but Modi doesn't need this move to win in 2019, so I believe he might save it for later.

    What you both are proposing cant happen for next 3 decades at least. In fact, it might not be possible For another 5 also ( considering Chinese into the equation).
     
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    China has shot itself in the foot by doing what they are doing under CPEC. No one trusts them anymore in Pakistan except for PA for their own survival. There is an very old song from a hindi movie- Dushman naa karay dost nay woh kaam kiya hai, zindagi kaa gham hamain inaam diya hai.
     
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    Not only to Pakistan but also to China. Pakistan will become defacto colony of China and we will have Lizard on our western border which will be more dangerous since in north we are protected by Himalayas but on western borders China can wreck Havoc. We should dismember Pakistan and take POK at any given cost if India as a nation has to survive for next millennium.............

    China is trying hard and doing everything to Gain warm water port which opens directly into Bay of Bengal or Arabian sea, Pakistan fits the design, China tried its best to take over NE India to gain sea port into Bay of Bengal but India proved too hard to overcome. So Pakistan is the logical candidate for take over.........
     
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    Bloom 17 2nd Lieutant IDF NewBie

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    I doubt it matters anymore what Pakistanis think. They already swallowed the country. they control everything from garbage disposal to government administration. few years down the line its the next Tibet. And don't worry Pakistani citizens prefer China over their own inefficient government. Earlier every time the civilian gov couldn't perform military was called in, now its Chinese and the military is ok with it as long as they have the final word in the say.
     
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    When a nation disintegrates or gets Balkanised, the state which retains the name among successor states has to deal with debts. Punjabis are very smart in this-Karza laykay marja. Pakistan dies, no state which becomes independent or joins India will have any debt to repay to China or anyone else in the world.
     
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    Though I try to avoid BJP-Congress debate, but article 35A is the biggest mistake of Nehru, even Rajendra Prasad asked for debate in parliament or at least a discussion in public forum but Nehru, the dictator of that time, out rightly rejected it as he wanted to act more liberal towards the policy of Maharaj Jaisingh and later on with Abdullah.

    It may have been justified during 50 & 60s, but in 21 century 35A is clearly violation of human rights and not only against Article 14, which gives us equality before law, but also against Indian constitution as it was never discussed in parliament and was added in the "Appendix" part of Indian Constitution, a biggest ever joke happened in any democratic country.

    Now the big question, Can we delete this article ? Yes, without any doubt we can delete it, even SC could have deleted this article today, 35A derives its power from 370 but in 370 there is no mention that it has power to add articles in constitution, but SC have to assess the situation in the valley(which is job of GoI) and article 35A is completely political issue and not people's issue, only 3 sides will stand against this problem i.e. hurriyats, PDP & NC, of course the Muslim Jamindars will lose their power if it is deleted. People(poor one) of valley simply don't care about it, in fact it is now the job of union govt to take tough action against 35A and raise awareness among the masses that this article along with some J&K local acts are biggest obstacles in the development of valley and deleting them will benefit the poor ones.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Both these articles, 35A and 370 can be abrogated overnight. I had stated that the constituent assembly was protected under article 370 and not subsequent one's. we had a very long Khangrass rule and so these provisions stayed and defeated the very purpose of integrating J&K with rest of India.
     
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    Well as per wargames and Tactical planning the Army is does not foresee a conflict where in you will get time to capture vast swaths of land be it on the Pakistani sides or the western border, For the ease of understanding let me tell all which all Theatres will see actions

    1. Northern command, Kargil, Gurez Tithwal and Uri have been the traditional routes for Infiltration by the pakistani forces, They will enagage again but we dominate them here and all of us are well dug in.
    2. Hajipir Buldge/pass we have to under all conditions capture this portion of land as it would give a hawks eyes view over RAWLAKOT,BAGH,HAJIRA,KAHUTA and almost the half of POK.
    3. Chambh Jauria sector near Akhnoor facing Sialkot would see Armour ed warfare
    4. The Lahore Axix, having three roads on it.

    Chinese wont mobilise anything be rest assured, but i have a feeling their military hardware will also take a beating in the next War on the Western front specially at Gwadar.

    Any ops on the above mentioned Theaters would be conducted in phases simultaneously and would be requiring anything between 10-16 days for successful completion. This time frame is not sufficient for overall capture POK and thats the bitter truth.
     
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    but will the GOI allow the army to go on for 16 days? I'm pretty sure falling to foreign pressure GOI will fold its card way before the above mentioned timeframe.
     
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