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‘Women equally responsible for crimes against them’

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Himanshu Pandey, Jan 5, 2013.

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  1. Himanshu Pandey

    Himanshu Pandey Don't get mad, get even. STAR MEMBER

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    any type of appreciation is acceptable to me... thanks:lol:
     
  2. AccessDenied

    AccessDenied Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I believe that the jist of what he was saying is this: BJP does have misogynistic goons like that, but not all of them are as bad as the retard in question.

    @ Himanshu Pandey - dude I think you are putting too much value in Sangh Parivar's theatrics of 'Mother India' and 'rakhees'. The kind of misogyny that most people expect from BJP consists of just this- putting women in archaic and traditional roles, prevent them from acheiving economic parity and then proceed with subjugation from behind closed doors of a domestic setting. BTW- I have had personal experience with the kind of goons trying to play 'moral police' with couples. Since it was Kolkata, and the ratio of sane and modern youngsters thankfully far outweigh the gaggle of retarded, sexually frustrated and cross-eyed 'swayamsevaks' (a disgrace to the name; my grandfather used to be a swayamsevak and he was waay progressive for his time and society, but I digress). Needless to say, the idiots couldn't really dare to harass me and my ex; so after a preliminary enquiry of our identities they proceeded to give us a condescending lecture on how western societal values are perverting our 'timeless' traditions. It is worth mentioning that the entire scene was taking place on a public bus; which was also boarded by our entire college going group, consisting of both couples and singles. Hearing their amusing little theories about 'Indian traditions', the group pretty much converged on our location and started to harass those condescending morons with statements like 'bhaiya, tub Krishna bhagwaan ji humare traditional values ko neecha nahi kar rahe the jub we gopiyon ke saath leela karte the?', or 'bhaiya, kama sutra kya ISI ka plot hai humare society ko burbaad karne ke liye' and the absolute gem of 'Draupadi ji toh amreeka ke porn-stars se bhi zyada sexually liberated hongi kyunki unhone kabhi bhi paanch pandavon ko pati maan-ne se aitraaz nahi kee'. The last one HAD to rankle because surprise-surprise, the genius was a lesbian girl from our batch (her sexual orientation being evident because of her indulging in mild PDA with her partner). Their ire was not helped when upon further enquiry it was revealed that she was a traditional Hindu girl originally from Punjab, going out with a, get this, muslim girl. And here's the cherry on top of the humiliation sundae for them- the girl also revealed that her parents, also Hindu brahmins, not only know of her being a lesbian; but are also extremely supportive of it. The look on their faces was epic and at that moment, I was simply wishing that I had a camera with me. But now at this juncture, when I reflect back upon the situation and change the setting of the city to, say, Varanasi; while keeping the characters same- I just don't see those goons let us bunch of harmless kids get away with what we said. I see them getting on the bus with many more other thugs in tow in the first place, not having the conversation at all and then extracting their terrible vengeance upon all of my intelligent, bright, perhaps a little snarky at times, but innocent friends; for the crime of being different. I just don't see how the overall ethos at the derelicts at BJP are different either. Make no mistake; both the major choices for our public in the upcoming election are equally abysmal (i,e BJP and congress); hence we might have to go for the lesser of the two evils here.
     
  3. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Gun rules should be relaxed for working women of .22 caliber.
     
  4. Firemaster

    Firemaster Captain STAR MEMBER

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    Agree :troll:
    Bhaag lo issey pehle ki......:cursing:
     
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  5. WMD

    WMD Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    just asking for ur opinion(nothing to do with the discussion)
    which is the lesser evil according to u?
     
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  6. AccessDenied

    AccessDenied Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Neither. The whole situation is so twisted: I really don't know whether to laugh or cry. On one hand you have a gang of looters headed by a figurehead dynasty who have been preying on this nation since god knows how long, encouraged vote bank politics, and drove a very subtle yet powerful wedge between the communities. And then on the other hand you have saffron clad psychopaths clamouring for Hindu revival (which IMO, wouldn't be a bad thing; except that these morons are advocating medieval institutionalized Hinduism with rigid caste systems coupled with retarded and sexually frustrated inferences about strong independent women instead of the uber scientific and uber progressive Hinduism of the Vedic ages). NaMo is just one man; i know that being business minded he would try his level best to maintain some semblance of sanity so that multi national corporate entities don't get scared away by 'our bearded freaks' (the difference from the 'other' bearded freak being that 'our' bearded freak also sports vermilion 'tikas'). And given the global situation, the sustenance and enhancement of the economic development of the nation is priority. Therefore i'll probably vote NaMo, but my concern remains that he would be unable to check the influence of the 'bearded freaks' of sangh parivar; especially after playing the 'hindutva' card so extensively to win in Gujarat.
     
  7. Foxtrot

    Foxtrot Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    why only women......it shud be relaxed for everyone...
     
  8. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I don't find any reason restricting .22 for civilians.
     
  9. AccessDenied

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    Ore, khuli ta ki sesh projonto crack kore bosli?:achmed: Let working women carry maces, tasers and the likes. Just nothing that can be used by a frustrated and mentally unbalanced individual to kill a bunch of random people. And with the number of women I regularly piss off; what's to say that one of them won't shoot me right between the eyes (or more horrifically: right between the legs) for cheating on her with my lap-top:troll:
     
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  10. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    No- theirs is an idelogocal stand. That's why it is not just a ''few' goons. If BJP declares that women's clothing is their choice and cultural decisions are people's alone (aka 'western culture), something they will not interfere in; then we can say only a few misogynistc goons in BJP. But the BJP will never say that and will continue to 'oppose' infestation of 'western culture' as shown by girls wearing jeans and celebrating valentines. Becuase that kind of moral policing gives them a lot of political power they don't want to lose.
     
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  11. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    The idea that Indian women were 'equal' and 'superior' in some golden age is really silly and false propoganda spread by hindu groups who are hardselling a golden culture age. When it comes to writing and talking about it, all kinds of nice nice things are said. Fact- that was never the case.
     
  12. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Women are equal but differant, so are most people one way or the other. As far as I am concerned if a man rapes a women he should be excuted. There are not excuses, reasons or justifications. India is considered one of the worse places in the world for women. India is considered the fourth worse country in the world for women..http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/15/worst-place-women-afghanistan-india

    Its disgusting you shoudl be ashamed of your selves.
     
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  13. AccessDenied

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    I think that its time for our society to introspect about why that happens. Why does that kind of antiquated moral policing appeal to most of our people in the first place? I blame rigid and blind traditionalism and infestation of the politically powerful strata of the society with mostly sexually frustrated individuals.
     
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    AccessDenied Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Just like you should be ashamed of the innocents dying because of your drones. Now if you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute to this discussion; I suggest you shut the hell up!
     
  15. AccessDenied

    AccessDenied Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Not really. Several prominent women riddle our history (Rani Rashmoni, Chand bibi, Rani Laxmibai etc.), which is contrary to the notion of a society that systematically subjugate women; and all archaeological evidence of the Indus valley civilization point towards women playing a central role in the religious traditions. Besides, the concept of 'golden ages' itself is fallacious. No society in the history of the planet has ever been 'perfect' in the right sense of the word, neither will one ever be. Imperfections are as much part of a society as they are of a person. Just because some quasi literate or pseudo literate moron from the Sangh parivaar waxes eloquent about an exaggerated picture, does not mean we should automatically start ignoring the things that were good about our society. Also, give our people some credit man. I think most of us (at least most of the urban population) know how many of the sanghis truly are; and any support from that part of the society towards NaMo is purely because of our collective economic interests.
     
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