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‘Women equally responsible for crimes against them’

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Himanshu Pandey, Jan 5, 2013.

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  1. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    There will always be a few shining examples in all societies. True, our society has probably never seen the sort of stuff in several hardcore islamic states (women completely cut off with burkhas etc.) But until the mid 20th century, majority of economic opportuinities went to males, most households had him as the chief bread earner with the woman dependent upon him. That kind of political and economic power automatically gives a lot of space for abuse. I don't think Indian males were 'enlightened' to the extent that they could resist the temptation of using that power for domination.
     
  2. Averageamerican

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    We use to point out how well some blacks were doing to prove they were not discriminated against.

    There are 258 coutries in the world and conditions for women in India are considered the 4th worse out of 258 countries. That is really pitiful.

    The Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), Pakistan, India and Somalia feature in descending order after Afghanistan in the list of the five worst states, the poll among gender experts shows.
     
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  3. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Yes, the situation is EXTREMELY bad. One hopes that current protests will strart the process of a long term fix. It isn't easy but it has to be done.
     
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    Best way is harsh penalties for rape and education.
     
  5. tunguska

    tunguska Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    What kind of penalties you suggest for Rapist?
     
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    Rape by stranger death. Child rape death if by an adult.
     
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    Ok. what is current US law for RAPE?
     
  8. AccessDenied

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    I completely agree with you there; but that was more of a societal degeneration than the societal norm. And most of that societal degeneration had started by the end of the first millenia. Accosted with forced conversions and paranoia of dwindling numbers; Hindu society turned rigid, structured. Besides, lets not forget, the concept of women's rights was not thought of anywhere in the world before the late and early nineteenth and twentieth centuries respectively. There weren't a whole lot of jobs in India until industrialization happened in India, which could be called 'suited for women' either.

    Another observation that I make from the present mess, is that there is not only the necessity of economic emancipation for women, but there is an equally pressing necessity for us bloated, self entitled and often condescending men to actually realize the importance of a woman's role in our lives. If us unenlightened Indian men remember that all the time, we would be much less prone to 'dominate' and be more willing to simply listen to them. Lastly, there also need to be some serious introspection on the part of women themselves. Especially the middle-aged and senior ones. Upon closer investigation of almost all domestic disputes, women of the grooms' families are often found to have played a very pro-active role in the subjugation of the bride. How can Indian women hope for justice if their own kind denies it from them? Case in point: The psychotic woman chief minister fails to take serious action against the gang-rapists of a lady in Park Street; and the retarded M.L.A in her ministry, also a woman, who downplays the gang-rape as a 'dispute followed by an incident between the lady and her customer'. I think her implications regarding the victim's professional orientation were clear to everybody.:facepalm:
     
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    Not near as harsh but then we are not considered the 4th worse county in the world for women.

    "WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled, 5 to 4, on Wednesday that sentencing someone to death for raping a child is unconstitutional, assuming that the victim is not killed." I think they are wrong. Rapeing a child can get you life in prision. Usually 10 to 20 years for stranger rape.
     
  10. WMD

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    no just more rapes per 100000 posted according to u
     
  11. Himanshu Pandey

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    kk that part.... my friend it is the scholars, researchers and archeologist(most of them are western not hindu groups) who told after finding Indus vally civilisation that it was a women dominated society... its not me..

    same goes with vadic period.. the social life and freedom described in them for woman are to as equal... that to said by researchers and scholars not me.
     
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  12. Himanshu Pandey

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    yes they were not and from medival period till 20th century they behaved very badly with woman... but today the situation is changing and there are more then few examples of great woman but they all in our ancient history... very few in medival or mordern
     
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    Most are date rapes and even rapes by husbands, I doubt if they would even be considered rapes or reported in India or most countries. Its hard to pin down the satistics and compare them, though that does not make it right. The bottom line India is considered the 4th worst county in the world for women out of 258 countries in the world.
     
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    With all that is happening, this title given to the topic by The Hindu is in bad taste.
     
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    1.Much is happening in the social media - like Facebook,etc. India has a wide internet coverage. People are speaking out their minds, something one won't find in the media itself.

    2. The core problem seems to be politics. They are saying as many as 3,000 cases of rapes, reported and registered with Police, remain un-actioned because all of them involve politicians, their sons/relatives or workers/supporters. Authorities / leaders of society somehow do not consider rapes of Harijans/Dalits big deals.

    3. Whereas the political leadership and the elite class is calling for reforms, the common man is calling for revolution. History of mankind tells us that the common man is rarely wrong. They want to throw away the colonial system of politics, bureaucracy / administration and judiciary. These as prevailing suite the politicians only and allow the old colonial masters to continue their exploitation.

    4. This girl is turning out to be a saint whose death could cause an Indian Spring.
     
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