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Britain plans to send warship to South China Sea in move likely to irk Beijing

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by Hellfire, Jul 29, 2017.

  1. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    JULY 27, 2017
    Colin Packham

    SYDNEY (Reuters) - Britain plans to send a warship to the disputed South China Sea next year to conduct freedom of navigation exercises, Defence Minister Michael Fallon said on Thursday, a move likely to anger Beijing.

    Britain would increase its presence in the waters after it sent four British fighter planes for joint exercises with Japan in the region last year, he said.

    China claims most of the energy-rich sea where neighbors Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.

    "We hope to send a warship to region next year. We have not finalised exactly where that deployment will take place but we won't be constrained by China from sailing through the South China Sea," Fallon told Reuters.

    "We have the right of freedom of navigation and we will exercise it."

    The presence of a British vessel threatens to stoke tensions, escalated by China's naval build-up and its increasingly assertive stance.

    The comments by Fallon came after Britain's Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said the country's two new aircraft carriers would be sent to the region.

    Johnson did not specify where exactly the vessels would be sent once operational in 2020, though the presence of such firepower will likely heighten tensions in the region.

    Speaking in Beijing on Friday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said none of the recent comments "playing up" tension in the South China Sea were made by regional countries.

    "Countries in the region are working together to safeguard and promote regional peace and prosperity, yet we see other countries who insist on stirring up trouble while the situation is trending towards calm in the South China Sea," he told a daily news briefing.

    China's construction of islands and military facilities in the South China Sea has stoked international condemnation, amid concern Beijing is seeking to restrict free movement and extend its strategic reach.

    Britain's move could also upset ties between London and Beijing, undermining efforts to shore up what the two governments have called a "golden era" in their relationship as Britain heads towards a divorce with the European Union.

    "We flew RAF Typhoons through the South China Sea last October and we will exercise that right whenever we next have the opportunity to do so, whenever we have ships or planes in the region," Fallon said.

    The United States estimates Beijing has added more than 3,200 acres (1,300 hectares) on seven features in the South China Sea over the past three years, building runways, ports, aircraft hangars and communications equipment.

    To counter the perceived Chinese aggression, the United States has conducted regular freedom of navigation exercises that have angered Beijing.


    Earlier this month, the United States sent two bombers over the region, coming just a few months after it sent a warship to carry out a maneuvering drill within 12 nautical miles of one of China's artificial islands.

    China has repeatedly denounced efforts by countries from outside the region to get involved in the South China Sea dispute.

    The South China Sea is expected to dominate a regional security meeting in Manila next week, where Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi will meet counterparts from the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) countries.

    Meeting ASEAN diplomats in Beijing on Wednesday, Wang told them both sides must "exclude disturbances on the South China Sea issue, and maintain positive momentum", China's Foreign Ministry said.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-britain-idUSKBN1AC1CB







    This news really tickled me :)

    @BMD
     
  2. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Good, it's about time they start doing that. Same goes for France.
     
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  3. Kalmuahlaunda

    Kalmuahlaunda Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    and Japan.
     
  4. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Definitely them, goes without saying. For them this is a life or death matter since it's their own backyard; Japan, South Korea and all the Southeast Asian states should already be active, and if they need warships, we should sell them warships with Brahmos to deter China.

    But Britain and France have stayed out of this for too long. I'd say the same about Canada but they're a smaller player overall and Trudeau is a pussy anyways.
     
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    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    Trudeau doesn't have any ships I think the Chinese would be afraid of.
     
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    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    It's not so much about the ship as it is about the sheer defiance to sail through the SCS. I couldn't care less if they send a tugboat, as long as they show solidarity with the other Western and Asian nations sticking it to China.

    Canada wouldn't be doing the heavy lifting in any future scenario anyways, the point is to just gang up on China right now.
     
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    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    China respects only strength. These symbolic acts of defiance (especially from a country with little to no stake in the region) don't matter much unless they're ready to say that if push comes to shove, they'll be ready to stand and fight the PLA.

    In SCS, the only parties that can or will actually fight China when the time comes are it's regional enemies, and of course the US.
     
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    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    That's why ideally countries like Canada who may not be able to stand by themselves should bundle up. Send a ship along with the UK, or with the US, or even India for that matter. Defiance of China's open "dadagiri" in the SCS is the first "show of strength" from which all further actions may follow.

    And that's not necessarily true, key NATO allies may be involved, to a great degree it depends on how China chooses to play the situation.
     
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    Kalmuahlaunda Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    exactly symbolism matters. China needs to see tthat the entire world is getting together against them, and that their bully tactics wont work anymore. Its funny how India called their bluff so easily and now they cant do jack about it
     
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    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    India and US were the two most important countries in that sense, and while US was already "pivoting" to the Pacific, India for a few years was a bit hesitant, but India coming out strongly on the SCS matter, against China at Doka La and even against North Korea is a massive inflection point for Asian and World geopolitics. This is history we are witnessing.
     
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    Kalmuahlaunda Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    its clear we are moving on from Pakistan to now China. We needed a strong enemy to build ourselves and we got one now. Lets see whats there in the coming future
     
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    Britain bhi?:devil:

    Bhai logon India ne China ki Taang kya Khichi Sabhi ko Maja aagya ab Britain ko bhi himmat aagayi china ko chedne main. Ab sabhi Chipkali kiPoonch pakad ke khel na chahte hain.:LMAO::LMAO::LMAO::p:p:p
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    As long as their boat doesn't break down in warm waters, it's all good.
     
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    China now threatens Britain with WAR over a decision to send Aircraft Carriers to SCS
    Saturday, July 29, 2017 By: India Today Source Link: CLICK HERE
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    It seems that after India, Britain has now come in the firing line of the hawkish Chinese state media. The reason is another territorial dispute - the South China Sea - where China is flexing its muscles, like it's trying to do with India in the Doklam dispute.

    Britain has announced it will send its two aircraft carriers, HMS Queen Elizabeth - the largest in the British fleet - and HMS Prince of Wales to the South China Sea. It does so in solidarity with the international community's pledge to ensure freedom in navigation operations in international waters, and to counter China's attempts to dominate the area by building artificial islands and militarising it with warships and fighter jets.

    An editorial in the official Chinese publication Global Times, which regularly threatens India of war over the India-China Doklam plateau border standoff, has warned Britain that sending warships to the South China Sea would be a provocation that would force China to take retaliatory measures.

    Questioning the British motive behind the move, the editorial says "it is no longer 1840 and there are no longer any British colonies in East Asia" and that Britain has wrongly taken this decision under Australian and American influence. It describes the "US as a police officer, Australia as its assistant and the UK as its accomplice."


    'BREXIT WEAKENING BRITAIN'S INFLUENCE'

    The editorial says in a patronizing tone that Britain needs to maintain its self-esteem and should not allow itself to "be stupidly dragged back to Asia," which will only disgrace and humiliate it.

    Brexit has been ill-quoted as an example of Britain's waning influence by the editorial here to justify its arguments.

    "Brexit is weakening Britain's influence, and it appears that the country needs to do something to assert its sense of identity."
    The editorial continues to berate Britain as a much weaker country that cannot afford a "new Opium War with China off the China coast," while aggrandising China's military prowess that it says has changed the balance of power around the globe.


    'AUSTRALIA CAN ONLY BARK'

    Blaming Australia for lobbying hard to instigate Britain, the editorial says Australia "can only bark" and if Britain follows suit, its stature will reduced to "being an accomplice or a dupe." Canberra has traditionally maintained that China mustn't build artificial islands in the South China Sea or militarise it.

    Britain's Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson revealed his country's plans to send warships to the South China Sea during his meeting with his Australian counterpart Julie Bishop on Thursday. Bishop was recently in India, where she reiterated the traditional Australian stand on the South China Sea dispute.

    Australia has indicated that it may join British efforts directed towards ensuring freedom of navigation patrol in the international waters of the South China Sea - a vital trade route for many countries, and the global economy.

    In May, during his Australia visit, US Senator John McCain urged Australia and other nations to conduct naval exercises in the South China Sea, to challenge China - which was acting like a bully.


    SEVEN-WAY DISPUTE

    The territorial dispute in the South China Sea involves seven countries - China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei. A busy trade route passes through it and all other countries except China are in favour of keeping its status as free, international waters.

    China wants to control it as it imports most of its oil through this trade route and has built artificial islands in the sea. Doing so would enable China to establish hegemony in East and Southeast Asia. As well, it would keep foreign military forces like the US away from the region.

    The US Navy has a sizeable presence in the South China Sea and it routinely carries out patrols in the area to deter the Chinese efforts, maintaining that the South China Sea waters must remain free for international navigation. China doesn't recognize these claims - including the United Nations Convention on Laws of the Sea (UNCLOS) which has invalidated the Chinese claims on the South China Sea - and says China has controlled these areas since ancient times and if there's any dispute, it should be resolved by the concerned nations through bilateral discussions.
    http://www.defencenews.in/article/C...ision-to-send-Aircraft-Carriers-to-SCS-263463
     
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    China is immature. You can't threaten everyone who uses nearby seas with war.
     

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