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Britain should accept more immigrants if it wants a free trade deal - Senior Indian diplomat

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by somedude, Nov 27, 2017.

  1. BMD

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    I'm talking about people who have the best possible qualifications getting rejected literally down to some anal analysis of body language during a given exercise at an assessment centre. But then they employ someone with worse qualifications to fill their ethnic minority quota. Employers are outright liars, their only aim is to lower labour costs and save face.
     
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    We would have enough specialists if we gave degree positions to everyone making the grades, and training positions to all medicine graduates. It's like not planting any crops and then wondering why there's no harvest.

    Ours would because it is literally that fucking dumb when it comes to this kind of thing.
     
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    China doesn't have free trade with the UK though. And maybe foreign investment will be a part of the trade deal.
     
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    That you're anti social and a reprobate doesn't need reinforcement . Focus on the issue at hand instead of citing personal experiences . There are plenty out here who've failed to make the cut due to quotas owing to a policy of affirmative action by the government here . And they have a case . Your government doesn't support such action and if it does I'm sure the proportion of jobs earmarked are pretty nominal . Yet that doesn't prevent you from breast beating in s public forum . Grow up will you ! The world or your government doesn't owe you a living to your taste . That requires your own endeavour . Instead of being a complaint box all the time .
     
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    I'm telling you the absolute truth about UK employers. The UK government absolutely does have affirmative action except it's called 'positive action' here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action

    All major employers have positive action and even then the minorities favoured complain. The only people not complaining publicly are the ones being discriminated against. If I'd left university an Asian 20 years ago, I'd have been snapped up much quicker. We even have more recent cases where UK employers only advertise jobs in Poland.
     
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    That's probably because they have a better work ethic . You do recall why all those mines were de nationalised during Thatcher's rule . Ever heard of an industrious Yorkshire miner ?
     
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    UK will be just one country out of more than 2 dozen advanced economies.

    You have had vacancies for a decade now. :lol:

    There is no fix for mediocrity. If the UK can't fill vacancies after tapping into the entirety of the EU, then there's no fix.

    You don't.

    Nobody will veto it. If they do, then developing markets will begin shutting out advanced economies from their markets.
     
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    There is an obvious reason for that.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/british-workers-lazy-uk-needs-adopt-asian-work-ethic-young-tory-mps-748692

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/8527734/British-work-ethic-condemned-by-Indian-tycoon.html

    Most employers find Polish workers are far more hardworking than British workers.
     
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    And that's cos labour rates in India is cheaper. Once upon a time, some 50 years back, much of the manufacturing took place in US. When US got competitive, jobs moved to Japan and Korea. After they got developed and competitive, they moved to China. Now China is getting competitive. Now naturally jobs are moving to India.
    UK is still a small market no matter what you call it. and UK cant survive on Financial services alone. Tata has burnt its hand buying Corus where labour rates are so high that the cost of steel is damn high even for UK govt to buy. That's the story. An experienced Professional Indian can get something like 15 lakhs per annum in India. Its more than enough for him to lead a luxury life in India. For the same job, UK nationals are paid 85k pounds ie 75 lakhs INR. In that cost an Indian company can hire 7 highly talented professionals. If you guys import an Indian professional for say 40k pounds per year, 2 persons can be hired. As for cars it will be the same. Nobody will invest in UK car factories now, if not getting closed. US, UK do a lots of R&D stuffs however such jobs alone are not enough for all of the population.

    UK wants a free trade deal. Fine. Indian companies investing in UK needs competitive edge to become profitable by wanting an easier movement of professionals. Honestly we arent pleading for an trade deal with EU or India or Australia. UK Finance Minister knows much better than u or me I suppose. I am talking from an Indian Company POV.
     
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    Because some services could not be exported easily, or exported at all. If you have a vacancy of a doctor in NHS, having an extra doctor in India would not help India (or that doctor) earn anything.

    Why was it so difficult to understand?
     
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    So, you would still profit immensely from it. And if we genuinely have spare position unfilled after 6 months, then you could fill them, but you would have to pay taxes here since you would use public services everyday. What's difficult to understand about that?
     
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    Tata has a problem because China dumps excess steel on the market. India is still a smaller market in terms of nominal $ GDP.

    UK car manufacturers will fill the void left by EU car imports. We always imported more cars than we exported.

    Well perhaps you should consider a trade deal more carefully. It might help you catch China.
     
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    No. I'm talking even about minorities born in the UK. They are favoured over whites. It's nothing to do with work ethic.

    2nd link. 'Too keen to clock of at 5pm'? You mean the end of the working day, after which they aren't paid for working?

    It's nothing to do with work ethic. And since when is it okay to generalise an entire ethnicity based on a perceived notion of work ethic? How about if we switch that around and say, "no hiring blacks because on average they have a lower IQ."
     
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    But at least it is an advanced economy.

    I'm talking about for the same job.

    The only mediocrity to be found is in HR departments, if we could strip them out of a company, it would take a third off the cost of output.

    We do, we have more project managers than projects.

    The advanced economies will withdraw investment from developing countries and move production elsewhere, letting them go back to the natural state they were in 50 years ago.
     
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    Again, if it's okay to generalise all Brits in terms of work ethic, India's average IQ is 70, so you are all thick by the same kind of generalisation.

    Miners - a case of Cold War Soviet subversion by infiltration of unions.
     

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