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By 2015, Russia Wants To Establish A Eurasian Union To Rival The EU

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  1. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Is Moscow’s proposed Eurasian Union an initiative to revitalize stagnant economies, or an attempt to re-establish a Soviet Union “lite?”
    After the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the world suddenly had 15 more nation states, some of whom had not been sovereign territories since the 19th century.

    Nevertheless, calls for a re-integration of the Eurasian region were soon heard, often led by Russia, according to (pdf) a Chatham House paper.

    In 2005, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the fall of the USSR “a major geopolitical disaster of the century.”

    There’s been a smattering of different attempts at unification, including the Commonwealth of Independent States security union, but a lack of commitment to creating the institutions have stalled efforts, Chatham House writes.

    But with the EU increasing its engagement in post-Soviet countries during the mid-2000s, President Vladimir Putin made economic Eurasian integration a foreign policy priority, a move many saw as a way to counter eastward expansion of the EU.

    In recent years, Russia has created both a customs union with Belarus and Kazakhstan, a free trade agreement with eight former Soviet states, including Ukraine, and a visa-free zone (pdf) with four other countries.

    The ultimate goal: establish a Eurasian Economic Union (EAU) that can rival the EU.

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    Image courtesy of Datastat via Wikipedia.

    An Eastern EU?

    Above, the graphic shows Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, the three current signatories of the EAU, which is intended to be established by Jan. 1, 2015.

    The union will be based on the EU model, removing barriers to trade such as tariffs, border inspections and the need for travel and work visas. It will also establish a common customs code and a common regulatory agency called (pdf) the Eurasian Economic Commission.

    According to a brochure on the Commission’s website (pdf), the Union will cover 15% of the world’s land surface and include more than 170 million people. The members of the customs union traded nearly $1 trillion worth of goods between them in 2011, spurred by the new agreement.

    Combined, their GDP is $2.3 trillion, obviously still a fraction of the U.S. $15 billion, or the EU’s $16 billion.

    Once established, however, Russia is hoping it will be expanded to include the resource-rich but underdeveloped ex-Soviet countries in Central Asia such Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, or even Mongolia.

    It’s also extremely keen to pull Ukraine in, instead of allowing the former Soviet Republic to join the EU and hence the Western sphere of influence.

    Not only does Ukraine have a strong industrial base, abundant agriculture and millions of skilled workers, it’s also the considered the cradle of Russian civilization. And as the map above shows, the addition of Ukraine would stretch the EAU’s influence far into Europe.

    The recent Crimean conflict only demonstrates the lengths to which it will go to manipulate Kiev.

    Criticism

    The project has been criticized as a method of shoring up Russian influence in the post-Soviet space.

    Western leaders have been vocal in their opposition to the union. In 2012, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called it “a move to re-Sovietize the region.”

    Russia does seem to have an outsized decision power and influence over the EAU.

    For instance, Russia receives nearly 90% of all collected custom duties.

    And in the union’s regulatory agency, the EEU, Russia has one vote weighted at 57%, while Belarus and Kazakhstan both have a vote weighted at 21.5%.

    This mean Russia will always need the agreement of one other country to make a decision, but the two other countries can never make a decision without Russia’s agreement, according to Chatham House.

    The decisions of the Eurasian Economic Commission have been determined to be “binding,” meaning that they have domestic legal force without having to be ratified by member states, according to Chatham House.

    This, along with Russia’s recent disregard for other nations’ sovereignty, could lead to troubles if other nations decide not to play along with Putin’s Eurasian dream.


    By 2015, Russia Wants To Establish A Eurasian Union To Rival The EU - Curiousmatic
     
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  2. Marqueur

    Marqueur Peaceful Silence ELITE MEMBER

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    predictions of our forum's Nostradamus, @vstol jockey coming true
     
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    @vstol jockey Bhai, is New Soviet funda mein India aur China ka kya position hoga? Hum aur Chini fence ke kaunsi side pe koodenge?
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    China, Russia and central asian muslim republics with Iran & Syria on one side and India, Israel, western world, asia pacific rim countries and Asean on one side.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Mujhe nahin lagtaa Angrez ki fauj aur 50 saal rahenge. Hame angrezo ka badshah banne ka koi shaukh nahin hain. 50-100 saal tak inke saare zamin zaidad bikau hain:troll:
     
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    :shocked: And who will win? Where will pakistan be?
     
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    omya Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    waisa putin to famous hey hate speech dene main muslimo ke upar ? to kaisa?
     
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    It are the muslims who should be against working with Putin in that matter. But muslim countries out there have hardly anything
    called self-respect. So they'll work for anyone who throws them a bone.
     
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    China would very much to take back a large part of that unpopulated Siberia. The Russians have just about abandoned it.

    "China, Russia" are enemies.

    The Russian Empire will have about 15% of the GDP and 20% of the population of the EU. Most of them relatively poor and governed by criminals.

    Not much competition for anything, Indians economy is far bigger for instance.

    Putin has been trying to get countries to rejoin the 'union' for years and most countries have too many bad memories of Russian 'friendship' in the past to ever consider it.

    For instance, they left Lithuanian is an appalling state, when I went there it looked like a post apocalyptic wasteland.
     
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    Imagine Russia in 2050! According to Paul Goble, a specialist on ethnic minorities in the Russian Federation has predicted that within the next several decades, Russia will become a Muslim majority state. There is another bad news with fast decline in country’s population. This has already become a headache for Russian politicians and policy makers. President Vladimir Putin has called already for Russian women to have more children, because demographers predict that Russia’s population will fall from 143 million to 100 million by 2050. This situation has alarmed Russians as well Western leaders, more so because analysts estimate that Muslims will comprise the majority group in Russia’s population in few decades.
     
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    Most likely India & China or India & Pakistan will get into a war which will engulf rest of the world or India will be attacked by China & Pak together.
     
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    If the world is going to allow in the 21st century a powerful neighbor to annex weaker countries territory we are in for a dim and dark future. I was hoping we were beyond that.
     
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    ya and till 2030 russia will have 40% muslims working in defense
     
  14. randomradio

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    Either way this bloc cannot compete with the EU. And Russia is too big for it to work like the EU.
     
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    EAU will have 6 members in 2015!
    The 3 countries that will form the EAU (Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus) and 3 joined members (Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan) also later on or by 2020 Russia will try to get another 3 states in the EAU (Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Mongolia)

    Also Russia has a population growth, because a lot of oil money has bean invested in population growth
    and on this link, you can see that it is working because in 2007 the population decline was -470,323 and in 2013 it changed to growth of 24,013 so if population growth continues this trend by 2020 thy will have positive growth of about 300,000 - 400,000.

    And no, Russia will not become a Muslim country by 2050 because currently only 6% of population is Muslim.
     
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