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CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Agent_47, May 10, 2017.

  1. Pundrick

    Pundrick Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Apart from software, pilot's manually flying skills are also very useful while refueling. I don't know how will the PAF pilots would manage the refueling during conflict situation.

    The probe should have been little forward for better visibility, of course avoiding the frontal view.
     
  2. PARIKRAMA

    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    Few points

    • AESA with ~1000 T/R modules
    • Range of 170 km for targets of 5 m²
    • Track 15 targets and engage 4 simultaneously
    • Shape of the antenna is different from previous AESA developed
    • This helps in better beam width and gain
    • Wrong notion floating that its at par with F35 and can detect 1m2 or less than 1m2 targets at 170 km range.
    • The cooling solution is still not clear and the whole radar requires lot more tests under different conditions
    • Its primary customer is all export version of Chinese planes and launch customer is expected to be Jf17 Block 3
     
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  3. X_Killer

    X_Killer Captain FULL MEMBER

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    I knew the same but you should look out the pics with the text mentioned on images.

    There are two cases in my post...



     
  4. X_Killer

    X_Killer Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Is there any change in JFT's nose cone because this will not going to fit inside the present nose cone?
     
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    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    As of now the whole radar system is not fully finalised .. the cooling solution itself being not cleared.. so its too prelim to talk about the nose cone modification aspect..

    we might see a little smaller version with say ~800 T/R and say perhaps 150 km range for 5m2 with all other capabilities as well if its too much due to nose size restraint.

    typically i doubt they will take nose cone modifications so soon for earlier block.. so its possible either a downsize version or little shaving in size is done to accommodate the present capabilities of the radar...
     
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  6. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    It's not unusual though, Gripen and the F16 refuelling probe that is on offer to us, are located at the same position.
     
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  7. Zer0reZ

    Zer0reZ 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Range of 170 km for targets of 5 m²?? or 3m2?

    "The KLJ-7A that makes its first public appearance in this show has a combat range of 170 kilometers," says WANG Hongzhe (王宏哲), "This range is equivalent to (that of the radar) F-35 , and it's is mostly done on a radar with a much smaller volume in comparison. "

    http://www.eastpendulum.com/airshow-china-2016-radar-aesa-klj-7a

    APG-81 can detect an aircraft with a radar cross-section of three square meters—a MiG-29, for example—just over 100 miles away.

    https://warisboring.com/no-the-f-35-can-t-fight-at-long-range-either/
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    The older pulse doppler version was based on 5m2 targets, which is the common standard, just as PESA and AESA are usually based on 3m2 targets, but I haven't seen an official spec board yet for the AESA.
     
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    RMFAN Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I watched this episode of CCTV "Economic half hour" program, the tested AESA radar is a small version, used for JF-17 as the radar chief designer spoke to the CCTV reporter.

    It is said that the actual detection range of this new radar can reach 170 km.


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    This episode is about the advanced radar R&D and manufacturing achievement from 14th institute of Chinese Electronic Technology Group.

    This episode video in Chinese as follows:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fA0fzoKFNE
     
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    If it is the case than,
    Same question for you..
    =>
     
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    In the TV program, the Chinese radar chief designer emphasized that it is small and compact, used for the upgrade version of JF-17.
     
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    we can see (in the pic shared), how small it is..
    anyways, will see , where they'll fix it on JFT
     
  13. PARIKRAMA

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    170 km 5m2 - air to air mode

    Edit -
    the radar has a maximum range of 170 km (likely in reference to a radar cross-section of 5m2).
    https://quwa.org/2016/10/31/klj-7a-proposed-aesa-radar-jf-17-block-iii/
     
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  14. RMFAN

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    Even though many people here do not understand Chinese, but you can still watch the following videos to get an idea.

    CCTV, Economic half hour, " advanced manufacturing technology of J-15", introducing the Chinese latest 3D printing technology used for manufacturing of J-15, as well as the intelligent screws used on J-15.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMbXB6O1C68
     
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