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CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Agent_47, May 10, 2017.

  1. MilSpec

    MilSpec Mod MODERATOR

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    You mean assemble.
     
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  2. X_Killer

    X_Killer Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Anyways,
    Nice photo op
    Keep it up..

    But fitting an Ambassador car with Ferrari engine and components won't make it comparable..

    Last but not the least, its crashes with 100% pilot kill ratio shows its all efficiencies.

    I'll really frightened if a jf-17 itself behave as a self-destruction missile..
     
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  3. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    The mid wing station on JF17 can carry heavy anti ship and A2G missiles, so why should it not be able to carry 2 AAMs and a twin launcher?

    There is no removal of hardpoints, since your pic don't show operational loads, but obviously a test config without fuel tanks.

    So twin pylons helps to go from:
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    To this:
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    You still have all hardpoints and pylons occupied, but with a larger load.
    Also the twin launcher is heavier and bulkier in size, than a standard launcher for a missile, which logically adds weight and drag to the fighter, compared to the standard config.
    That's why any fighter that has more hardpoints, prefers to use smaller and less heavy missile pylons instead of twin launchers.

    Simple example single LAU 127 launcher for AIM120 under a pylon:
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    2 × LAU 127 fitted to a LAU 115 twin launcher under a pylon:
    [​IMG]
     
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  4. BlackOpsIndia

    BlackOpsIndia Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    This is trolling, the OP is behaving well and no flamebait comments, let's keep it that way.

    Every plane crashes, even the best ones fall out of sky every day and JF17 crash ratio is not bad at all. Showing pride in showing others plane crash is sure shot way of getting humiliated when it happens to us.
     
  5. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    No need to come up with unnecessary stuff, keep discussing the upgrades, or just leave it at that.
     
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    WhyCry Reaper Love IDF NewBie

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  7. X_Killer

    X_Killer Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Yup, anything can fly high, can down hard but why it is always necessary that seat ejection failed for all time even it happened with PAF's f-7s. You may check out last 5 crashes which includes 2 FC-1s.
    Even sub-standard FC-1 isn't able to sustain a harsh landings..
    Chinese always pull down the price tag by lowering down the quality standards..
     
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    mugundhan 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    guys dnt troll. let's discuss real pros and cons
     
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  9. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    the benfit of dual rack launcher is simply to add another missile to the fighter without adding another hardpoint.
    yes the dual launcher would be heaver where simple logic would point that out.
    but its not exactly bulky
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    the end point im making here is that the j10/jft can accommodate a dual launcher and would and the only benefit of it is that its utilising one less hardpoint
     
  10. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    Pros and cons are dependent on what features the Block 3 upgrade will get. More intersting than the twin launcher, would be AESA radar, HMS + HOBS missiles, which would put would improve it's A2A capabilities by far.
    A new engine (Russian or Chinese) with higher thrust was planned as well and certainly would be necessary, since the Block 3 should gain quite some weight, like any other fighter that was upgraded to 4.5th gen capabilities.
    But we have to wait for the final order and official specs and infos, to get a better idea about it.

    China will surely keep the upgrades slightly below latest J10 versions, but if these upgrades can be realised, the JF17 block 3 could be interesting for some more export customers.
     
  11. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    looking at literatures from the Pakistanis it is evidant that an aesa will almost certainly be on blk'3. the hms, would be the problem as missiles would be easy to acquire (sa,china,brazil and the uk)and they would need integrating so the former 3 would be likely sources as access to the source codes is a must.

    the engines are not that much of a problem as russia is working on the rd-93ma which is basically near enough the same engines on mig-29k. no idea what china is upto.
    how do you know the chinese would keep upgrades below domestic versions(of the j10)? quite a bit of the tech is actually not from china. export versions would be different and something irrelevant. how the tejas going? not heard much of it, have they managed to fit the 414 in it?(not trolling, a genuine question)
     
  12. NKVD

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    Engine Upgrade not that easy You need Some structural Changes to add different engine
     
  13. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    the rd-93 and the potential new engine being from the same family would require work but not major structural work, same would apply to aircraft like the f16 and even your tejas with the 404 and now 414 engines
     
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    414 s for LCA MK2
     
  15. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    doesn't matter still the same base bird.
     

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