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CG Pics of PLA Heavy Airlifter: very close to the real

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by brahmos_ii, Dec 18, 2012.

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  1. brahmos_ii

    brahmos_ii Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    some Chinese military fans released some CG pictures of PLA Air Force being developed Y-20 heavy military transport aircraft via Internet, triggering a hot discussion in Chinese cyber forums. Some AVIC “Insiders” who have seen the Y-20 real aircraft, have confirmed that those pictures are very similar to the real Y-20 fuselage and aerodynamic shape, except exterior painting.

    According to CG pictures, the Y-20 looks similar to the Russian IL-76 and European A400M transport aircraft, except the winglets on main wings. The design is widely used in airliner aircraft and can effectively reduce cruise drag, reducing fuel consumption, thereby increasing the voyage.

    Previously some resources say Y-20 will “Shanzhai” U.S. Air Force C-17A. But present CG pictures display another development routine. It si interesting C-17 also has winglets design. The twin-engine C919 aircraft is a certain well-known project. The commercial use of such a platform may not yet clear, but it can be used to perform a variety of military missions.

    Allegedly, Y-20 is a four-engine 200-ton level heavy transport aircraft to carry 50-60 ton payload. China has assembled two Y-20s for flight and ground static test. The assembly of the first aircraft began as early as January 2012. Before the end of 2012, China may officially confirmed Y-20 projects, and announced Y-20 prototype upcoming test flight.

    Strategic airlift is the use of cargo aircraft to transport materiel, weaponry, or personnel over long distances. Typically, this involves airlifting the required items between two airbases which are not in the same vicinity. This allows commanders to bring items into a combat theater from a point on the other side of the planet, if necessary. Aircraft which perform this role are considered strategic airlifters.

    The United States has by far the greatest strategic airlift capacity of any nation in the world. Many countries’ armed forces possess little or no strategic airlift capacity, preferring to lease from private-sector firms as needed.

    China has been focusing on power on strategic deployment via land, marine and air. China has built world largest High-speed train network, construct more amphibious warships. The military heavy airlifter is the last obstacle to break.

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    http://www.china-defense-mashup.com/cg-pics-of-pla-heavy-airlifter-very-close-to-the-real.html
     
  2. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    its a copy of Boeing C-17 Globemaster
     
  3. mcddk

    mcddk FULL MEMBER

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    Well, does Indian Air Force interested in purchasing a much cheaper copy of C-17?:evilgrin:
     
  4. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    You get for what you pay, mate.

    Does this Y20 offer the same load-carrying capacity as C-17 (77.5 tons)? As per the article the load capacity is between 50-60 tons (probably around 55 tons) - that means its only marginally better airlift capability than IL-76 (50 tons).

    Furthermore it cannot carry heavy MBTs like Arjun Mk-2 and M1A2 Abrams (67.5 tons), only
    C-17 can carry them.

    Indian Air Force already has 15 IL-76 aircraft in operational service and plans to procure upto 30 C-17As in future.
     
  5. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Its infact a copy of the IL-76 with some C-17 traits visible.

    The Ilyushin IL-476 (upgraded version of IL-76) can carry upto 52-55 tons payload. The Y-20 compares with
    this aircraft.

    C-17 is way superior.
     
  6. mcddk

    mcddk FULL MEMBER

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    Agreed, even the Y20 can carry the same payload as the C-17 does. Anyway, still a long way before the Y20 come into service.
     
  7. MiG-23MLD

    MiG-23MLD Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    i do not think so, they are building with Russia a new aircraft

    India and Russia have given the green light to their Medium Transport Aircraft (MTA) joint venture, United Aircraft said following a signing ceremony in New Delhi.

    "A contract was signed by the client, the joint Indian-Russian MTAL venture, and the contractors, Hindustan Aeronautics and United Aircraft Corporation Transport Planes," the Russian company announced on 12 October.
    India, Russia launch delayed Medium Transport Aircraft[​IMG]
     
  8. grond

    grond Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Y 20 will come in the heavy lift category ... So India still needs those...
     
  9. WMD

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    the UAC/HAL Il-214 or MTA as it is being called is a medium lift aircraft more in similar to the Super Hercules than Il-76 or globemaster-III in payload, no. of troops etc.
     
  10. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Do you sell it by kilo or quintal?
     
  11. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    IAF transport capability is shaping up like this -

    NAL Saras/Dornier-228NG --- light turboprop transport
    C-27J/C-295 --- medium turboprop transport
    C-130J --- medium turboprop transport (special ops)
    HAL-Ilyushin MTA --- medium jet transport
    Boeing-737 BBJ/Embraer-135BJ --- VIP jet transport
    Ilyushin IL-76/Boeing C-17A Globemaster-III --- heavy jet transport

    We dont need any chinese transport aircraft.
     
  12. Firemaster

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    Ye deal kab hui?
     
  13. WMD

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    IAF has issued RFP for medium transport aircrafts like IL-114 variants from the Russian Ilyushin Aviation Complex, Ukrainian An-148 Antonov, the twin-turboprop European EADS Casa C-295 and Italian Alenia C-27J Spartan. these r meant to replace old Avros.
    the deal is not finalized. personally i think we should go for more C-130J as it is in the comparable price range.
     
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