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  1. hoatle1

    hoatle1 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles

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    As the U.S. makes clear it will defend Japan should China try and lay claim to the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea, this Chinese announcement from mid-2012 offers additional perspective.
    Once the U.S. announced it's turning attention from the Middle East and directing military assets to the Pacific, it didn't take long for China to make clear how it would handle what it saw as a new regional threat.

    The Economic Times reported China promptly increased its conventional missile capability to carry out multiple launches, from multiple sites —a tactic that could overwhelm a Navy ship's defenses and cripple its abilities.

    Tan Weihong, Commander of China's Second Artillery Force said, "Conventional missiles are a trump card in modern warfare. So we must be ready at any time. We must be able to deliver a quick response to attacks, hit the targets with high accuracy, and destroy them totally. Of the 114 missiles [our brigade] has launched so far, all have accurately hit the target."

    For each incoming missile a U.S. Navy ship will have to perform some variation of the following actions:

    First it will launch a long-range air defense missile, like a SM-2ER. If that fails, then a shorter range missile like the ESSM (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile) will go out — then the ship's main deck guns will fire anti-air rounds with fused airburst shells.

    Surviving missiles will be engaged by close-in weapons systems like the Mk-15 Phalanx or the RAM (Rolling Airframe Missile). Any incoming missiles struck by these systems will be so close, and moving so fast, that incoming shrapnel and debris would likely be unavoidable.

    While all these "Hard Kill" options are going on, the ship's electronic warfare systems will have been trying to jam the incoming missile, offering the missile a false target, while firing off chaff (for radar guided weapons) and flares (for infrared guided weapons).

    All that for every single missile, so if China can send off several at once directed at the same ship, the chances of success on their part may increase exponentially.

    China would launch its ordnance both from shore and its new Aegis type 052 Luhu-class destroyers. This battle plan is especially relevant given the developments in the area over the past few days, which I'll address in a following post.


    China's Plan To Sink US Navy - Business Insider
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    If China Already has plans and World knows about it
    Then its not going to work

    US has way more battle experience than China
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    neither the us or china will gain anything by going to war ..... china will not attack japan ...but same cant be said about japan which is on the defensive ..china is always agressive and that could lead to a conflict ...... no matter who starts the war or who wins... all 3 sides will lose a lot
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    I highly doubt if another Pearl Harbor type attack on USA ships are possible. The Pacific is a big ocean, US satllities watch China like a hawk, once such an attack starts USA is going to launch up to 11,000 missiles at Chinese targets,,, dozens are subs are going to be headed that way to launch more missiles. Also you can never be sure how well US antimissle defenses will do, if we can put an Iron Dome over Israel, I expect can erect a much better defense for ships. Then whats next, what ever carriers that are left are going to launch attacks on China, there Guam and Hawaii. USA access to China is much better then the China reaching the USA. :rafale:
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    one of those 11000 missiles will wipe out Foxconn ... then who will make ur iPhone's, iPad's iPod's, Kindle,PlayStation 3 and Wii U.
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    AA, yes american intelligence coverage is excellent but still submarine launched cruise missiles and multiple volleys would pose serious threat.
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    Look, chinese are heating up things against Japanese and they very well know that as per the 1945 accord, US has to provide security to Japan. Now, either US has to renegade on its promise to Japan and become a liar in the eyes of the world and unreliable ally or join the war in support of Japan. I am sure chines have factored in the response of US in their overall strategy.
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    It depends on how far China wants to go,,,,I would expect the USA to go to war to defend the Freedom of Seas International agreements concerning the China Sea. USA is pretty good fullfilling out commitments.
     
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    Chinese Missile Didn't reach US Soil they missiles are shoot down by various US defence Base across The world and US early warning systems are far advanced than Chinese one your Satellite above on the Chinese Space can take millions of Photo shots at every second If China tries to Destroy a Ship from US then Indians we have No more Defence Post across our Arunachal and Northeastern Frontier because we know if China Fires US should give a Massive Hit in their Backbone and Control their territory for the next 100 years



    China Struck by their Toys
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    US has a string of bases across Pacific to detect and shoot down missiles launched towards its mainland. That includes ship based radars and ABMs. China will find it very difficult to strike any US ac carrier or strike any ship in pacific. We are now living in an era of space based systems. Pls do not underestimate americans in that field. Though I still say that Indians have a bigger thing than americans and better brains than them.
     
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    Its all a matter of Available resources and Political will :yes:
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    Experience does count yes, but all you need a bright commander who can see the situation differently and make his plan.

    During the Battle of Cannae (Punic wars) Romans against Carthage, the roman soldiers were experienced and battle hardenend and also had numerical superiority, but it took stroke of genius from Hannibal to lure the romans into a trap and then massacare them :)
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    Ok, what about military experience America has almost always have had war since ww2 .... China has not seen war in a long time , so I expect Chinese generals to do newbie mistakes like placing too many resources in one place etc.. That said if the plan is to lure America into war then I don't see it ending well but I don't see this as ww3 either...
     
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    Re: China Already Has A Plan To Sink The US Fleet In Any Upcoming Battles Read more:

    Well even though soldiers were inexperienced on the Carthage side
    but Hannibal was participating in battles since a tender age
    when kids play around

    he was a hardened veteran and a genius

    chine commanders may be genius
    but as you said at the end experience always counts to something
     
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