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China angrily reacts with threats after South Korean missile defense decision

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by lca-fan, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. lca-fan

    lca-fan Captain FULL MEMBER

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    China angrily reacts with threats after South Korean missile defense decision
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    • China objects to the deployment in South Korea of the THAAD
    • If this happens, then China-South Korea relations will face the possibility of getting ready to cut off diplomatic relations, China said
    BEIJING: Chinese state media has reacted with anger and threats of boycotts after the board of an affiliate of South Korea's Lotte Group approved a land swap with the government that will enable authorities to deploy a US missile defense system.

    The government decided last year to deploy the US Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system, in response to the North Korean missile threat, on land that is part of a golf course owned by Lotte in the Seongju region, southeast of Seoul.

    The board of unlisted Lotte International Co Ltd approved the deal with the government on Monday.

    China objects to the deployment in South Korea of the THAAD, which has a powerful radar capable of penetrating Chinese territory, with Beijing saying it is a threat to its security and will do nothing to ease tension with North Korea.

    Influential state-run Chinese tabloid the Global Times said in an editorial on Tuesday that Lotte should be shown the door in China.

    "We also propose that Chinese society should coordinate voluntarily in expanding restrictions on South Korean cultural goods and entertainment exports to China, and block them when necessary," it said in its English-language edition.

    The paper's Chinese version said South Korean cars and cellphones should be targeted as well.

    "There are loads of substitutes for South Korean cars and cellphones," it said.

    The WeChat account of the overseas edition of the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily said late on Monday that cutting diplomatic ties should also be considered.

    "If THAAD is really deployed in South Korea, then China-South Korea relations will face the possibility of getting ready to cut off diplomatic relations," it said.

    The official Xinhua news agency also said in a commentary late on Monday that China "did not welcome this kind of Lotte".

    "Chinese consumers can absolutely say no to this kind of company and their goods based on considerations of 'national security'," it said.

    South Korea's defense ministry said on Tuesday it had signed a land swap deal with Lotte on the golf course in exchange for providing military property. A South Korean military official told Reuters the military would begin installing fences and soldiers would patrol the area.
    The Lotte Group said on Feb. 8 Chinese authorities had stopped construction at a multi-billion dollar real estate project in China after a fire inspection, adding to concern in South Korea about damage to commercial relations with the world's second-largest economy.

    Asked if South Korea had demanded the Chinese government suspend any economic retaliation, South Korean Defence Ministry spokesman Moon Sang-kyun said: "We have continuously persuaded China so far and will keep continuing efforts to do so."

    South Korean government officials have said THAAD is a defensive measure against North Korean threats and does not target any other country.

    South Korea's central bank said this month the number of Chinese tourists visiting the tourist island of Jeju had fallen 6.7 percent over the Lunar New Year holiday from last year, partly because of China's "anti-South Korea measures due to the THAAD deployment decision".
    http://m.timesofindia.com/world/chi...ile-defense-decision/articleshow/57389451.cms
     
  2. lca-fan

    lca-fan Captain FULL MEMBER

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    China has become biggest threat to world peace and security.

    All the affected Nations will have to unite to fight Chinese hagemony. Any single nation on its own can't fight China now not even US. The sooner we unite the better it will be to tame the lizard.

    Hitting them financially by boycotting Chinese products by all the nations will be very effective in containing China and could be a good start.
     
  3. Ripcord322

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    Boycotting Chinese Products is simply not an option...Many Companies from across the world have Chinese Supply Chain Integrated into their manufacturing....Our own businesses will take hits....While a portion of the supply chain can be localised.....Not all of it can be substituted locally or from elsewhere...


    And also if Countries start blocking Chinese Imports....China can block their Imports in return...And unlike us...China has more flexibility to better localise and substitute Thier Imports.


    Also targeting a country by blocking it's imports is against the spirit of the Organisations we are in like the WTO, BRICS and G20.....


    The world simply cannot run without the Chinese Supply Chain and manufacturing....That is unless we ofcourse...We were to live like people from the stone age...


    It is easy to say "Boycott Chinese Products" on an online Forum from a Computer/Mobile that has components from China....But to execute it in real life is almost impossible.

    This world runs on global trade...You can't just decided to stop a certain stream of that flow....It much more interwoven and complicated than you think.



    And lastly Chinese are not fools or delusionals they are pretty good in Diplomacy and more importantly arm twisting....
    Hoping that the "Rest of the world unite against China" is wishful at best...
     
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  4. SvenSvensonov

    SvenSvensonov MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Thank you for voicing your concern, China. Now piss off.

    If they're so concerned about THAAD maybe they should help the US and South Korea rein in the North? No North Korean threat, no THAAD.

    But no, it's easier to whine like a spoiled child told "no" for the first time in their life then it is to do something productive and more helpful long-term.

    The more China complains and lashes out against South Korea the better it is for us though, so whine away China. It, and warnings, are all you're good for anyway.

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  5. AbRaj

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    Aah, the big brother China wants SK not to defend itself against the nukes provided by him to North Korea (of course purely for the benefit of SK).

    They should not have provided nukes to rouge states (NK,pakistani) ,why crying now.
     
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    THAAD -- Thats the last sound Chinese will hear with Koreans slapping them left and right. May be we should also join the match of slapping Chinese for fun and profit.
     
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    Your opinion is correct. I also think it's no use resisting. China also had a boycott movement in Japan, however, are some nationalist narrow short-sighted behavior.

    The Chinese government has a variety of ways to punish the South Korean government. Boycott is the most stupid kind of emotional vent.

    The United States, put THAAD in Korea, somewhat similar to the Cuban missile crisis. For a nuclear power, this behavior should be regarded as a provocation. May inadvertently lead to nuclear war.I hope there will be no nuclear war
     
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    SvenSvensonov MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    North Korea let a few missiles fly, and a day later THAAD shows up in South Korea

    http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...es-fly-thaad-missile-defense-suddenly-arrives

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    Sorry China, but North Korea's increasing ballistic missile capabilities represent a real and viable threat. The United States, Japan and South Korea are going to take the necessary steps to ensure their own defense, with or without your approval.
     
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  9. AbRaj

    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    C5 SG is a beast. Is it available for export??
     
  10. SvenSvensonov

    SvenSvensonov MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    C-5 production was ceased almost 30 years ago, so no new birds would be exported. 5 of the USAF's 57 C-5s are scheduled to be removed from active service this year, but will likely be placed in long-term storage or used for parts. Currently no C-5 has been exported and is not cleared for export, though there was a plan in the 1970s to export the type to Iran.

    Another picture of THAAD arriving in South Korea, and a video.

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    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Is there any successor programs for C5 or C17 ??
     
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  12. SvenSvensonov

    SvenSvensonov MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The C-5 fleet is currently undergoing a major overhaul (as are the B-1B and B-52H fleets) that will be completed around 2020 at the earliest. The fleet is expected to remain in service until 2040 or 2050. No replacement is yet formalized, though talk of a stretched C-17, Airbus design and other alternatives have been floated. It's likely be a few more decades before any replacement program is stated.

    The C-17 is a still a relatively new airframe, with new aircraft having been produced until 2014, with the final delivery to the USAF being in September, 2013. A replacement for it is a long way off.
     
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  13. Sathya

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    China did everything under the table ..

    What a responsible permanent UNSC member ..

    And talking about rules In the book .
     
  14. jha

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    If one is not familiar with crazy fat Kim, it would seem as if Fat Kim was desperate to get THAAD deployed in SK. He fires couple of missiles, and next day THAAD gets deployed. In the process China got $crewed.
     
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    Personal opinion, I don't think North Korea is going to attack South Korea via its treasure ballistic missile, since the entire Seoul is within the power range of North Koreal's artillery. I think the essential of this THAAD system is the radar not the missile, and I think the major purpose of deploying this system in South Korean is getting alerted earlier than before if China launches something. Comparing with protecting south Korean from North Korean's attack, I think it is much more useful for protecting Japan from Chinese attack(Even the possibility looks like pretty small for opening war between China and Japan in the foreseeable future). Beside, I think another useful usage of this system is the surveillance against China, and I think this is the major reason China hates the system to be deployed in South Korean.
     

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