Dismiss Notice
Welcome to IDF- Indian Defence Forum , register for free to join this friendly community of defence enthusiastic from around the world. Make your opinion heard and appreciated.

China has about 57 DF-41 ICBMs with 570 thermonuclear warheads

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by Martian, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Martian

    Martian Captain SENIOR MEMBER

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    339
    China has about 57 DF-41 ICBMs with 570 thermonuclear warheads.

    In January 2014, a Chinese DF-41 ICBM was seen leaving its manufacturing plant.

    China Shows New Mobile ICBM on Internet | The Washington Free Beacon
    [​IMG]

    Since China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) builds both China's civilian Long March orbital rockets and the military DF-41 ICBM, we will assume a one-to-one correspondence. This means one military DF-41 ICBM is built for each civilian Long March orbital rocket. This assumption is reasonable, because China's military space budget dwarfs its civilian space budget.

    In 2014, China conducted 16 orbital launches.[1]
    In 2015, China conducted 19 orbital launches.[2]
    In 2016, China attempted 22 orbital launches.[3]

    Since January 2014 (when the picture of the DF-41 ICBM leaving its manufacturing plant was taken), China has launched 57 Long March orbital rockets. This means there should be about 57 DF-41 ICBMs produced to date.

    Each Chinese DF-41 ICBM carries 10 MIRVs (ie. Multiple Independently-targetable Re-entry Vehicle).

    Thus, China has about 570 thermonuclear warheads deliverable by its DF-41 ICBMs. This total does not include the MIRVs on China's DF-5B 8-MIRV ICBMs, DF-31B 3-MIRV ICBMs, and JL-2 8-MIRV SLBMs.

    References:

    1. Launch Activity Hits 20-year High in 2014 | Space News
    2. 2015 Space Launch Statistics | SpaceFlight 101
    3. USA, China Led World in Launches in 2016 | Parabolic Arc
     
  2. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    Messages:
    2,388
    Likes Received:
    4,777
    Country Flag:
    India
    Don't try to fool. Not all mirv are actual bombs as per norms half of mirv that is at least 5 are dummies to evade Anti ballistic missile systems and to bring down kill probability so the figure 570 thermonuclear bombs is incorrect.

    For your information India too has Agni 5 8000kms, k-4 5000kms and upcoming Agni 6 10000kms and k-5 6500-80000 KMS missile s with mirvs. That's the reason why China is making all the noise through media and has gone Berserk.

    If you don't believe India has mirv capabilities then you should know ISRO regularly launches multiple satellites in single launch the same technology goes into the mirved missiles. So we are ready come what may, if we go, you too will, it is called MAD.
     
  3. hit&run

    hit&run FULL MEMBER

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    31
    Country Flag:
    India
    Multiply 57 by 10 equal 570 is a fanboy calculation to assess Chinese nuclear MIRVs.

    Chinese nuclear doctrine is not same as USA or Russians given they do not have nuclear war-fighting arsenal but deterrence.

    They are not posturing to alarm nuclear war fighting nation by having their arsenal tipped on their missiles all the time but having levels of alarms keeping their nukes assembled but not tipped. Please note Pakistan keeps their bombs dissembled.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2017
  4. venureddy

    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,021
    Likes Received:
    686
    Country Flag:
    India
    does it also mean it takes the same time as the long march rocket to launch a DF-41 missile??? if that's the case then good luck with your no warranty no guarantee goods.
     
    lca-fan likes this.
  5. Martian

    Martian Captain SENIOR MEMBER

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    339
    Here is the citation from Richard Fisher that China's Long March orbital rockets and ICBMs are dual-use technology.

    As you can see, the DF-5A ICBM and the Long March 2 (ie. LM-2) orbital rocket are basically the same rocket/missile.

    The physical dimensions of the DF-5A ICBM and the LM-2 are exactly the same, except for the payload at the top of the rocket/missile.

    China Increases Its Missile Forces While Opposing U.S. Missile Defense

    [​IMG]
     
  6. venureddy

    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,021
    Likes Received:
    686
    Country Flag:
    India
    So DF-A takes a looooot of time to launch. Good to know that.
     
  7. nik141993

    nik141993 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Messages:
    231
    Likes Received:
    415
    Country Flag:
    India
    this thread is about China & it's ICBM, not once he or topic mentioned India , try to keep discussion related to topic
     
  8. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    Messages:
    2,388
    Likes Received:
    4,777
    Country Flag:
    India
    I have kept it to the topic. This is Chinese media rhetoric on behest of Chinese govt, ever since India tested Agni-5 missile everyday there is a news article from China which wants to undermine Indian deterrence and issue veiled threats to India like "If India tests more missiles we will not sit idle or we will supply Pakistan so and so missiles". These threats have to answered. We acknowledge China is ahead of us but we are not far behind this message has to be conveyed.
     
  9. nik141993

    nik141993 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Messages:
    231
    Likes Received:
    415
    Country Flag:
    India
    Martian may be CCP bot but he usually don't post from Chinese media outlets but from western media or think tanks & also give his own opinion & analysis based on his own observations...But how much they are true is open for discussion
     

Share This Page