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China ready to cede land for part of Arunachal Pradesh?

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by lca-fan, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. IndiranChandiran

    IndiranChandiran BANNED BANNED

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    The key here is whether we have it in us to take over the entire PoK. If we do that , we can continue discussions with PRC till eternity .
     
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  2. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Bullshit. Never trust the Chinese, never make deals with the Chinese. No "exchanges." You want Tawang? We dare you to come take it.
     
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  3. Levina

    Levina Admin- Social media Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    PoK is a hell hole.
    Taking over that part will be like giving yourself a headache which is 3 times bigger than Kashmir.
     
  4. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Pretty sure that was Mahavir Tyagi, not ABV.
     
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    Thank you but No.:)

    The Chinese must be kidding themselves to come up with such an offer. They wants us to give up a piece of land which holds a significant influence on the Buddhist Tibet(which is itself occupied by China) and what do we get in return? Peanuts?
     
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    IndiranChandiran BANNED BANNED

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    While that may be true , it's the most valuable part of real estate in the NW of South Asia.Seize that & the entire CPEC bunkum , the iron brother BS , etc fly out of the window .

    As time goes by , we're going to rue our decision not to have taken possession of PoK on the few opportunities that we were presented with .
     
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  7. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    My bad you are right it was Mahavir Tyagi. But he definitely had guts to stand up against that idiot.
     
  8. IndiranChandiran

    IndiranChandiran BANNED BANNED

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    The entire exchange was Nehru trying to cover up his government & more specifically his own debacle by referring to the worthlessness of the Aksai Chin by stating not a single blade of grass grows there to which a certain gentleman pointing out to his own bald pate suggested that not a single hair grew on it which extrapolating Nehru's wisdom meant his head was useless as well.
    The usually loquacious & argumentative Nehru was speechless.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Not happening. DMZ is bs when chinese can easily move in anytime. Tawang is integral part of India period.
     
  10. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Not happening. DMZ is bs when chinese can easily move in anytime. Tawang is integral part of India and non negotiable period.
     
  11. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    And India shows a huge middle finger to China. :****::rofl::rofl::rofl:

    http://m.timesofindia.com/india/def...ai-lama-in-arunachal/articleshow/57448261.cms
    Defying China, India to host Dalai Lama in Arunachal Pradesh
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    • Dalai Lama is set to visit Arunachal Pradesh from April 4 to 13.
    • Dalai Lama will be joined by Union minister Kiren Rijiju during his trip.
    • China has warned that Dalai Lama's trip would cause serious damage to bilateral ties.
    NEW DELHI: The Union government representatives will meet the Dalai Lama when he visits Arunachal Pradesh in April, officials said, despite a warning from China that it would damage bilateral ties.

    India said the Tibetan spiritual leader will make a religious trip to Arunachal Pradesh next month, and as a secular democracy it would not stop him from travelling to any part of the country.

    A trip by the Dalai Lama, whom the Chinese regard as a dangerous separatist, would ratchet up tensions at a time when India is at odds with China on strategic and security issues amid Beijing's growing ties with Pakistan.

    Prime Minister Narendra Modi's administration is raising its public engagement with the Tibetan leader, a change from earlier governments' reluctance to anger Beijing by sharing a public platform with him.

    "It's a behavioural change you are seeing. India is more assertive," Kiren Rijiju, Union minister of state for home affairs, told Reuters in an interview.
    Rijiju, who is from Arunachal and is PM Modi's point man on Tibetan issues, said he would meet the Dalai Lama, who is visiting the Buddhist Tawang monastery after an eight-year interval.

    "He is going there as a religious leader, there is no reason to stop him. His devotees are demanding he should come, what harm can he do? He is a lama."

    The Chinese foreign ministry said on Friday the Dalai Lama's trip would cause serious damage to India-China ties, and warned New Delhi not to provide him a platform for anti-China activities.

    "The Dalai clique has for a long time carried out anti-China separatist activities and on the issue of the China-India border has a history of disgraceful performances," spokesman Geng Shuang told a daily news briefing.

    China investing nearby

    Visits of the Dalai Lama are initiated months, if not years in advance, and approval for the April 4-13 trip predates recent disagreements between the neighbours.

    But the decision to go ahead at a time of strained relations signals Modi's readiness to use diplomatic tools at a time when China's economic and political clout across South Asia is growing.

    China is helping to fund a new trade corridor across Pakistan and has also invested in Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, raising fears of strategic encirclement.

    Last month, a Taiwanese parliamentary delegation visited Delhi, angering Beijing, which regards Taiwan as an integral part of China.

    In December, President Pranab Mukherjee hosted the Dalai Lama at his official residence with other Nobel prize winners, the first public meeting with an Indian head of state in 60 years.

    Some officials said India's approach to the Tibetan issue remained cautious, reflecting a gradual evolution in policy rather than a sudden shift, and Modi appears reluctant to go too far for fear of upsetting its large northern neighbour.

    India's foreign secretary, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, was in Beijing last week on a visit that analysts said was aimed at stabilising relations between the world's most populous countries.

    Tangible shift

    That said, Modi's desire to pursue a more assertive foreign policy since his election in 2014 was quickly felt in contacts with China.

    At one bilateral meeting early in his tenure, foreign minister Sushma Swaraj asked her Chinese counterpart whether Beijing had a "one India" policy, according to a source familiar with India-China talks, a pointed reference to Beijing's demand that countries recognise its "one China" policy.

    "One India" would imply that China recognise India's claims to Kashmir, contested by Pakistan, as well as border regions like Arunachal Pradesh.

    India's hosting of the Dalai Lama since he fled to India in 1959 after a failed uprising against Chinese rule has long irritated Beijing. But government ministers often shied away from regular public meetings with the Buddhist monk.

    "These meetings were happening before. Now it is public," Lobsang Sangay, head of the Tibetan government-in-exile based in the Indian town of Dharamsala, said in an interview.

    "I notice a tangible shift. With all the Chinese investments in all the neighbouring countries, that has generated debate within India," he said.

    The chief minister of Arunachal Pradesh met the Dalai Lama in New Delhi in October and officially invited him to visit the state.

    On the Dalai Lama's last visit in 2009, the state's chief minister met him. This time he will be joined by Union minister Rijiju, a move the Chinese may see as giving the trip an official imprimatur.

    New Delhi has been hurt by China's refusal to let it join the Nuclear Suppliers Group, the global cartel that controls nuclear commerce.

    India has also criticised Beijing for stonewalling its request to add the head of a banned Pakistani militant group to a UN Security Council blacklist.

    Rory Medcalf, Head of the National Security College at the Australian National University, said New Delhi appeared to have been surprised by China's inflexibility since Modi came to power, fuelling distrust in the Indian security establishment.

    "India does feel that the cards are stacked against it and that it should retain and play the cards that it does have," he said. "The Dalai Lama and Tibetan exile community is clearly one of those cards."


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  12. Lion of Rajputana

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    They better not backtrack on this one the way they did with visas for the Uyghur leaders.
     
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    Here is the rub. Aksai Chin is easily accessible from Chinese side and not from Indian side, so in case of war it can be captured much easily. It is other way round in AP which is why these bastards ran away in 62. So now f***tards are asking us to give up that advantage for stupid concessions.
     
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    Modi while alright on other fronts is a big wussy when it comes to China. Makes me wonder why. I guess they have some kind of card on him. Remember he went all the way to China with red cards?
     
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    China is a big country....
    IMHO I don't think they have a 'card' on him specifically.....

    I think Almost every country is a 'wussy' in front of China...

    It's just that.....They have tremendous tremendous amounts of Military and Economic Might....What country or head of state would want to start a fight with them...


    I will give you an example...
    If there is any agression from the Pakistani Border....There is an adequate reply from this side...If one of their troops crosses the line...Our side will capture and interrogate him.... Thoroughly.

    When we talk about the border with China...Their Troops literally come in with vehicles and tents...And set up a camp on our side....And we all know what our response is....They had also halted construction activities on our side...!!!! Infact when PM was on a visit to China...There as another incursion from their side....This is a testament to their knowledge of Indian response... Political Balls and Confidence in their military.

    This is the Natural order of things....The more powerful you are the more respect you get...
     

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