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China ready to cede land for part of Arunachal Pradesh?

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by lca-fan, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. sangos

    sangos Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Thats half truth bs. Our troops regularly picnic on their side as sell. Dont expect the Chinese media to report that. And our troops dont talk about it except rarely through spokesperson.
     
  2. PeegooFeng41

    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Not necessarily, I vividly remember Hainan Island incidence back in 2001 that time China was nothing in front of US might. No stealth planes or heck their own fighters for that matter, US had quite a few of stealth planes. No stealth subs, US well had every stealth sub. No road mobile icbm, lets not even elaborate for US. No SLBM. No Anti Satellite weapons. No Carrier nothing. Nothing at all. US had all of those. Even US economy was 10 times that of China --BTW even right now we are 5 times small than China in nominal economic measure and about 2-3 time in real purchasing power or economic activity. Also US was and is their biggest trading partner and held a massive trade leverage over them. Yet they detained quite a few US soldiers and grilled them.

    The cliche is always, its not how big your stick is, it is how you use it. Oh BTW, they still hold US EP-3E ARIES II plane captive. There is no natural order. It is the order you accept.
     
  3. Ripcord322

    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    and that is exactly where the "Political balls" come in...
    See the amount of 'dislike' every Chinese politician has for the US is enough to overshadow everything else...
    The Chinese are on a quest to outshine America on Every Possible front.....since their inception
    It is their sole purpose....

    The Image of China in our Political Class is a bit different....
     
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    IndiranChandiran BANNED BANNED

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    That was a different incident .There was a deliberate accident involving a US spy plane & a Chinese FA on active patrol duty.The Chinese pilot didn't survive the accident where as the US plane was badly damaged and forced to land in Chinese territory .Besides the entire incident occurred in and around Chinese sovereign territory (Chinese claim the US was violating it's air space where as the US claims they were in international air space depending on which version you believe ) .
     
  5. PeegooFeng41

    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    How different it is from Chinese coming 19 KM inside Indian territory and pitching tents. We can also arrest them and treat them, shall I say, according to Geneva conventions?
     
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    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    That is exactly what I mean when I say there is nothing natural in Chinese being above us. A bullet when fired will kill a Chinese or Indian whomsoever is on the receiving end. That is natural. If they arrest those Chinese intruders and make Xi-Ching-Chong make a statement on it, I wonder how long Chinese will be able to hold onto their balls.
     
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    IndiranChandiran BANNED BANNED

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    There was a casualty there .That's s big difference .Right now the LoAC is not a live border.Unless that's what you suggest we activate through such measures .
     
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    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Oh there are casualties on the border, some of them are 'accidents'. Just like that one was an 'accident'. Isn't that how both US and China finally agreed to settle it?

    The point China made was simple. If you intrude in our territory, you won't go back just like that. I am also not asking for killing the China-mice coming in our borders. Just hold them for a while according to Geneva Protocol. Chinese are a rational bunch. They will decipher our message well.
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Well, what I meant was that the image of China in our political class stems from the real image of china itself....They are feared BECAUSE they are more powerful and resourceful on the ground...not the other way around....

    In case of our administration....We would have arrested them had their home country not been as powerful as they are....
    The Chinese Political class and system are different from ours......Hence we cannot expect our netas to forget the ground realities and face off china equally hard....
     
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    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    That is an excuse at the best. Who puts our political class in there? We do. In China, if a leader is seen to be too much friendly with Japanese or the US, he won't be the next Xi Pi.
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Oh yes definitely....100% agreed....
    We as a whole nation..You, Me , Every Citizen is responsible for this....after all ours is a democracy hence we cannot blame the Politicians....
     
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    PeegooFeng41 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Why do you think Modi is so hard on Pakistan most of the time, sometimes even foolishly hard IMHO. We as a country demanded it. I remember when there was the incidence sometimes in 2013 or so when Pakistani mutilated dead bodies of few Indian soldiers, Congress was pissing in their pants. They knew it will not float with Indians at all. Same is with China. Enough blood does not boil on our side when Chinese incursions happen.
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Yup!
    Most of the people 'conveniently' focus only on Pakistan and ignore China....
     
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    Even in 2001, USA could not have defeated China in a land war; Their pilots were in custody of China (so was their plane but it did not mattered to them); And one of the Chinese pilot had died in a US incursion of Chinese airspace. It is no surprise that US played softball with China in 2001; like they played with Iran in 2016 when Iran arrested their coast guard.
     
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    A_poster Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Probably because people at a gut level have an understanding of what is achievable. We could punish Pakistan without fearing about escalation of conflict as they themselves do not want to escalate conflict to a full war as even most deluded general in Pakistan know that it would lose a conventional war with India. With China, best we can get is draw and probably win some territory. We cannot threaten their existence with our military.

    Let China fall into bad times. You would notice change in tone, both from people and the politicians.
     
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