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Chinese 4th generation jet fighters vs Indian 4th generation jet fighters

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by RMFAN, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. RMFAN

    RMFAN BANNED BANNED

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    http://www.sohu.com/a/147540587_670525
    http://mil.eastday.com/a/171004202241419.html
    https://kknews.cc/military/lxjvekg.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Air_Force
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_jet_fighter

    Chinese 4th generation jet fighters in service :

    J-10A : 280
    J-10B: 84

    J-11A: 105
    J-11B; 168

    J-16: 48
    J-15: 24

    JH7/A: 200


    Su-27: 48
    Su-30MKK: 76
    Su-35: 4

    Total numbers: 1037

    Chinese 5th generation jet fighters in service:

    J-20: 5-10

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    Indian 4th generation jet fighters in service:


    HAL Tejas: 3

    Mirage 2000: 45

    MiG-29 : 66
    Su-30MKI: 230

    Total numbers: 344
     
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  2. shaktimaan

    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    :santa-mooning dude ur airfoce is mighty one, pls compare it with aliens force
     
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    Low quality chinese jets can't be compared to Indian fighters....
     
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    Most of the Indian 4th generation jet fighters are imported from Russia and France, and they are outdated and more than 15 years old.

    Chinese J-10C, J-16, J-20 installed with AESA radar and long range PL-15 AAM (200km) outclass any Indian jet fighters.
     
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    Angel Eyes 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Every Chinese 4 gen fighter is a cheap copied variant of Su 27 prototype brought from Ukraine be it J 11, 15 or 16 , J 10 is a Israeli Lavi design, J 20 is modified mig 1.44...

    All of Indias jet are battle proven platforms ... Chinese can't be compared to them...
     
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    Chinese 4th generation jet fighters in service not only outnumber but also outclass the Indian 4th generation jet fighters in service.

     
  7. Angel Eyes

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    Good for you....keep dreaming...
     
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  8. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Just as most of Chinese aviation fleet in total. Helicopter are mainly from France, fighters and larger aircrafts are from Russia, so that doesn't really speak in favor for China.

    And even if we combine the numbers of them and add Su35s, you don't get to MKI levels, while all other Chinese fighters are technically below MKI and just on par with our upgraded Migs maybe.
    It gets even better when you take to account which fighters are actually based along Indian borders, because then Su 30, 35 and some of the latest Chinese versions would be out of the equation too. So PLAAF has numbers, but mostly of less capable fighters and it will still take a while till enough fighters are upgraded or build to the latest standards, to surpass IAF.
     
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    In fact, if China starts a full scale war with India, first of all, all the Indian airports , air defense systems and military airbases will be destroyed by the first wave attack of Chinese mid-range ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. Very few Indian jet fighters can survive and take off to fight with the Chinese J-20,J-16,J-10C.

    A few years later, the Indian 4th generation jet fighters had to face hundreds of Chinese J-20 and no chance to survive in anytime.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    So you agree that IAF has technological superiority over PLAAF so far.
    But yes, those missiles will be the main problem.
     
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    so you mean to say , our nuclear tipped missiles are dud and empty and we will sit back and watch china fire missiles and destroy our assets ? tell you something , china is just a barking dog like country , specially after doklam issue , the world will stop taking china seriously soon after doklam part II which will happen for sure . china is best in the world for raging false propaganda , stealing , bowing down when in trouble , always everywhere in every field related to defense related matters , but the truth is , you are still a third world developing country , just like Bharat . it is laughable when some chinese think they can take on mighty america :cheesy: or for that matter rage a war against Bharat , but truth is , china is a dud . though a rich dud now , she can only bully small nations and capture country like tibet and occupy lands from mongolia vietnam sikkim nepal and so on , or loot the nations in africa,or for that matter bankrupt countries like pakistan , but she hardly has any influence globally militarily like usa and russia has . and will never have till eternity . window dressing , rage a propaganda 24 X7 is your lifestyle , latest examples are mid autumn festival photos your fellow countrymen post , they are crazy about showing which food they are eating , everyone still lives in state of complex as eating nutritious food was legacy couple of decades back . BC dont forget your aukat ( past ) otherwise you will become laughing stock globally which will happen anyways when the so called one belt no pant's or so called projects like cpec will be prove to be the biggest financial disasters of the history . BC din me sapne le rahe hain CPEC banayega pakistan me jaa ke , woh bhi terrorist ke gardh me . joota pardega time se . aur marne wale pakistani hi honge .
    one thing more , china dont have balls to rage a war with any country in the world , and you say if china starts full scale war with india :dude: . at best china can do is use her proxy pakistan to fire some missiles on Bharat . that is all china is capable off ,. understand ?

    one thing more , previous air chief marshal shri arup raha has said that rafale can easily take on so called chinese special jiba series ( J 1 - 1000 ) so called fighter jets , so that is it .
    bye for now
     
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    Angel Eyes 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    This fake commie propoganda will not help PLA when it will be getting slaughtered by Indian Army.....
     
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    arbit 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    IF China starts a full scale war!

    Here is some food for thought.

    You do understand that once a full scale war breaks out, your war fighting capacity will be reduced by half or probably even more due to attrition and the fact that the Indian army is consistently considered amongst the top war fighting nations in capability. Not to mention that its a trained professional force which has seen actual wars in almost every decade.
    You also probably understand that not all your assets will be deployed along the Indian border or to fight only Indian defence forces, so the ratio of jets is not as severe as you have pointed out.

    Your reputation is based on threats and raging mad articles in global times, not on real performance on ground. A lot of obfuscation also goes to hype up your military prowess. What happens if a war breaks out and you don't perform as well? B'cause any thing less than total annihilation of Indian armed forces will seriously dent your repo. It will also encourage smaller nations like Vietnam and Japan that if push come to shove they can inflict real damage.
    What happens then?
    Also in a total war, your entire war fighting machinery gets exposed and will help Uncle Sam size you up :) Things will not be the same afterwards.

    What are the benefits of having a large growing economy capable of spending on its military defence as bonafide enemy right next door?

    A lot of other things are to be considered before one thinks about total war but its probably beyond your pay grade. I am not discounting the possibility of a full scale war neither I am worried or anything, but only outlining the conditions that makes it unlikely.
    However a limited scale war is very likely and that considerably reduces your advantages. In a limited war victory is not guaranteed to either side. Your best bet rests on intimidation.
    Which is why you and your newspapers are hopping mad. You better hope that works because the window to attack India AND win against it without incurring unacceptable level of loss is fast passing by :drag:


    It has been noted and you are welcome to try. We are ramping up our SAM batteries on an unprecedented scale. It should be an interesting match.
     
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    He is not equipped to critically argue. Just copy-pasting and making vague statements. Thats his specialty. :dude:
     
  15. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Maybe, but at least he has a base for his opinion and is posting it too. That's better imo than trolls that only say ours is better and get into personal attacks.
    We might not agree with, but should be able to counter in a decent manner, this is a discussion forum, so let's discuss.
     
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