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Chinese Aircraft Carriers: Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by Hembo, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. grond

    grond Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Last I heard china wanted to build four .... India plans six in the long term....
    But then again I don't know the weight class of any one....
     
  2. Vritra

    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Given their experience with the Kuznetsov-class, and their choice of carrier fighter, 70K displacement sounds about right.
     
  3. rocky.idf

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    There is a school of thought which suggests the AC may survive beyond next 25 yrs only as a symbol of power. Long range, ever sophisticated UAVs, long range aircraft and the unlimited range made possible due to mid-air fuelling are factors which may discourage major expenditure on ACs. An AC requires major back-up facility and is deployed with a group of other craft. All these are quite expensive to maintain. We are seeing v powerful frigates, destroyers and even return of the crusiers coming in to fill up any gap that an absence of AC may present.
     
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    the one build by DaLian is 68000T (50% Endurance) information shows this is a LiaoNing like

    the one buid by ShangHai is going to be with catapult displacement unknown yet
     
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    Guynextdoor Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Six is I think 4 in ocean and 2 in dry dock at any point. What I most frequently come across is 4 carriers- 3 in ocen and 1 in dry dock at any moment.
     
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    J-15 jet pioneer dies of heart attack on new Chinese aircraft carrier | idrw.org

    A 51 year old high ranking official of a Chinese fighter jet research team died after suffering a heart attack on the country’s sole aircraft carrier, state media reported Monday.

    Luo Yang, general director of the J15 fighter jet research team, and board chairman of Aviation Industries of China Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, died Sunday after suffering a cardiac arrest during a training mission on board the ship in Dalian in Liaoning province, China Daily reported.
    Recently, China successfully conducted flight landing and takeoff exercises with a new J15 fighter jet on the Liaoning aircraft carrier.

    The aircraft carrier was undergoing a series of sailing and technological tests, including J15 flight exercises, after it was delivered to the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Navy in September.

    The J15 has comprehensive capabilities comparable to those of the Russian SU33 jet and the US F18, military experts said.
     
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    China to launch first self-made aircraft carrier in 2013 | idrw.org

    China’s first domestically made aircraft carrier will be launched next year and will be commissioned between 2015 and 2016, according to a Hong Kong magazine.

    After the launch of the first carrier, China will bring a second one on stream two years later, the Mirror said in its December edition, which was made available to the CNA in advance.
    The Chinese-language magazine also said that mainland China plans to build a superb first-class Navy over 20 or 30 years.

    In the first decade, China will build three aircraft carrier fleets while in the second decade, it will build two nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, the report said.

    The magazine forecast that China will launch its first nuclear- powered aircraft carrier no later than 2020.
     
  10. Vritra

    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Here's a lovely propaganda piece following the first successful J-15 test:

    Skeptism to China's Carrier-Borne Jet Should Be Mute


    A few choice statements:

     
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    A worst case scenario with regard to naval defence for India would be to have to deploy at least two aircraft carriers in the Arabian Sea to deal with the Pakistanis - one to close in on the Pak coast, and another one to maintain air superiority in the deep Arabian Sea

    And another two for dealing with China and Myanmar. one would stay in the Bay of Bengal and maintain superiority here, while the other would be deployed in the Andaman Sea on the other side of the A&S archipelago, to keep the Myanmar coast in check and to monitor the Straits of Malacca for any signs of the CN carrier groups that the Chinese are currently building.

    So four operational ACs would be in order.
     
  12. Gessler

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    Meanwhile...the J-15s that landed on Liaoning all have AL-31FN engines and so do the first production-standard
    batch of J-10B jets.
     
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    The J-15 fighter jet, likely to be deployed on China's first aircraft carrier, is able to cover an area with a radius of over 1,000 km on attack missions, a chief designer said Saturday.


    The jet reaches similar technical standards of the third-generation carrier-borne fighters currently in service, said Sun Cong, a member of the 12th National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference who is here to attend the political advisory body's annual session.

    "The jet is close to the US F-18 fighter jet in terms of bomb load, combat radius and mobility," Sun told Xinhua.

    Great progress has been made on the fire-control radar and guided missiles on the fighter but more has to be done to improve its electronic countermeasures, he said.

    Nicknamed "Flying Shark", the J-15 fighter passed a test flight Aug 31, 2009.

    Last November, it conducted a successful landing on China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning.

    Indian Defence News - China's new fighter able to attack over 1,000 km
     
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    China’s Testing Woes Remind That Developing Carrier Planes Is Hard
    BY DAVID AXE03.21.1312:00 PM

    There have been at least three close calls involving the small force of experimental J-15s since the Chinese navy established its initial carrier aviation task force in late 2006. The accidents and near-accidents are detailed in a remarkable story published this week on the Chinese website Sina — remarkable because Sina gets its information directly from state-run media outlets, which rarely cop to mistakes on the part of the mighty Chinese military.

    In the first of the incidents, all of which took place between June 2011 and last November, an unnamed aviator — referred to only as “Test Pilot C†— was preparing to land his J-15 at the main military flight test center in Xi’an in central China when a warning light flashed red, indicating a hydraulics leak.

    The emergency was not exactly surprising. The J-15 is an unlicensed copy of a variant of the Russian Su-27. China’s other Su-27 knockoff, called the J-11B, has serious quality-control issues. “The J-11B program is in big trouble,†a U.S. source told Defense News. “The Chinese have lost a lot of aircraft in crashes.†It looked like Pilot C might become the next casualty.

    The aviator hurried to lower his plane’s landing gear before the hydraulics totally failed. “Test Pilot C firmly held the steering column, preoccupied with maintaining the aircraft’s balance,†Sina reported. He touched down, but no hydraulics meant no brakes. The airfield’s ground crew activated the crash barrier — most likely a pop-up cable that can be snagged by the jet’s tailhook — and the J-15 mercifully came to a stop on the runway.

    Some time later, “Test Pilot B†was performing mock carrier landings when his J-15′s speed “suddenly reduced.†One of the jet’s two engines was failing — a fire and explosion could soon follow. Pilot B quickly calculated his speed, height and distance from the runway and “decisively switched the problem engine off.â€

    Only the air-traffic controllers had any idea how close Pilot B was to crashing. According to Sina, all that the other airfield personnel saw was a J-15 gently gliding to a landing.

    A third incident was more dramatic. “Test Pilot A†was simulating arrested landings, using the J-15′s tailhook to catch steel cables stretched across the runway in the same configuration as Liaoning‘s own arresting gear, which allows an incoming plane to stop in only 100 feet. For this trial, the J-15 rocketed down the runway at 125 miles per hour without taking off, aiming to catch one of two wires at the opposite end of the airstrip.

    Pilot A snagged the first wire, but it failed explosively, snapping and “pounding the [plane's] tail into the air†with a “bang.†“The people who witnessed the scene were all scared into a cold sweat,†according to Sina. But the second wire held and the speeding J-15 lurched to a halt.


    China's Testing Woes Remind That Developing Carrier Planes Is Hard | Danger Room | Wired.com
     
  15. MiG-23MLD

    MiG-23MLD Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    China to buy Russian fighters, subs: state media
    (AFP) – 8 hours ago
    BEIJING — China has agreed to buy two dozen fighter jets and four submarines from Russia, state media reported, the country's first large-scale weapons technology purchases from Moscow in a decade.

    The agreement to buy the 24 Su-35 fighters and four Lada-class submarines was signed just before President Xi Jinping's weekend visit to Russia, said the People's Daily, the Communist Party organ, citing state television.

    The report, which did not give a value for the purchases, said it was the first time in 10 years China had bought "large military technological equipment" from Russia.

    The deal comes as Beijing expands its military reach -- it commissioned its first aircraft carrier last year -- and is embroiled in a bitter territorial row with Japan over disputed islands in the East China Sea.

    Two of the submarines will be built in Russia, with the other two to be built in China.

    "The Su-35 fighters can effectively reduce pressure on China's air defence before Chinese-made stealth fighters come online," the report said.

    China and Russia are expected to co-operate further in developing military technology, the report said, including that for S-400 long-range anti-aircraft missiles, 117S large thrust engines, IL-476 large transport aircraft and IL-78 aerial tankers.

    China's defence ministry had no immediate comment on the report.

    Xi visited Moscow from Friday to Sunday for talks with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, his first trip abroad since becoming head of state earlier this month.

    The countries signed around 30 energy and other agreements during the visit.

    Xi also met Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and became the first foreign leader to visit the Russian armed forces' control centre.

    Moscow and Beijing, which were once bitter foes during the Cold War, have strengthened cooperation in recent years to counterbalance what they see as US global dominance.

    Earlier this month China announced a further double-digit rise in its defence budget, raising it by 10.7 percent to 720.2 billion yuan ($116.3 billion) in 2013.

    AFP: China to buy Russian fighters, subs: state media
     

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