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Chinese Destroyer 052D and 052C Patrol In Indian Ocean

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by RMLOVER, Apr 6, 2017.

  1. RMLOVER

    RMLOVER 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/h/slide_8_203_49560.html#p=5

    In late February, the Chinese Navy South China Sea Fleet missile destroyer Changsha , Haikou and comprehensive supply ship Luoma Lake composed of naval far-sea training formation, went to the South China Sea, the eastern Indian Ocean, the Western Pacific Ocean, under the actual conditions of multi-subject training.


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    Time to get closer to petrol near tiwan & SCS
     
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    RMLOVER 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    By 2022, the Chinese Navy Aircraft carrier battle group should patrol India ocean from time to time.

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    I expect that the CCP government in China will be replaced by a new democratic government by 2022.

    The new China should have a new international strategy and more aggressive than the current one.
     
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    I actually don't think this can happen in the near future under a peaceful way. Dynasty replacement in Chines history was always introducing tremendous damage and negative impacts expect for one case which is the beginning of Song dynasty. Furthermore, it is pretty questionable whether china can come out with a real democratic government or not. Even a real democratic government comes out, it is still questionable that the international strategy can be more aggressive or not. My understanding is that the direct relationship with international strategy is how strong, powerful and stable the nation is, but whether or not the government is democratic or not doesn't looks like directly relate with external strategy.
     
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    Seems like most Chinese want confrontation with India in near future. They miss the fact that India is very similar to China albeit lagging in development and population. Situation is very similar to USSR-US duo, post WW
     
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    I don't think most Chinese want confrontation with India. Both confrontation and Cooperation exists together for a foreseeable long time sound like the common understanding of majority Chinese people on the relationship between India and China. if there is any cooperation which can benefit both India and China, I think China will propose to India expecting for cooperation. One example might be the proposal China initiated several years before for helping on the infrastructure construction.
     
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    That's pure business. China has big construction companies and also large amount of idle Cash so it wants to use it to gain some profit. Though its good for both but its not a co operation.
    China since last decade is trying everything possible including proxy war and international forums to restrict and contain India which IMO is mainly to weaken India and thus eliminating possible competitive threat and also to gain unusually advantageous deal in border dispute against weaker India. Like it did with other weaker neighbors.

    China rarely do co-ops.
     
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    By that time we shall be in a position to make them piss in their pants. we shall have pralay missile and 800 KM brahmos and Hyper sonic Brahmos in our arsenal. We would have mounted Brahmos on MKis and strategic bombers of Russia. We shall be in a position to take them out at any movement.
     
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    If the win-win business cannot be defined as cooperation, then the scope of the cooperation is indeed much more smaller. If only the cooperation like CCCP did with China after the Korea war or the cooperation US did with China in 1980s for anti-CCCP are able to be classified as cooperation, then it is sure there is seldom such opportunity existed for India and China for now.
     
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    Your brahmos is just toys in front of Chinese Navy Aircraft carrier battle group. Within the Chinese Navy Aircraft carrier battle group, there are 093B nuclear attack submarine (SSN) armed with YJ-18 anti-ship cruise missile and a naval version of the DF-10 long-range land-attack cruise missile and 094 SSBN armed with 12 JL-2 SLBMs, each with an estimated range of 7,400 km . Such fire power can send India back to stone age just in a few hours.


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    Do not expose your stupidity. From where does JL 2 comes into picture while we talk of conflicts in navy? If they have JL 2 than we have far superior K 4. And give me a single link to show that JL 2 has cleared its FOC. It was to get IOC in 2013 or 14 but there is no news there after. The so called 7400 KM range of JL 2 is with just 700 KG load. We state 4000 KM range for K4 but it is with 2 ton payload and almost zero CEP. We can use K4 in traditional role as well with non nuclear warhead because of its accuracy and huge weight carrying capability.

    And your so called chinese missiles are no match to Brahmos and no chinese anti ship missile defense system has any capability to counter brahmos where we can virtually stop anything fired from chinese naval ships or submarine. We have a decoy system to misguide any torpedo fired from any chinese submarine. So far as our submarine is concern, we can literally detect them from much greater distance by our subs as well as our P8-I aircrafts. China can not do anything.
     
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    You don't need to worry the battle capability of the 094 SSBN as there are at least 4 submarines in service. As for the 093B nuclear attack submarine (SSN), at least 3 or 4 submarines are in service. You had to worry where the hell the Indian nuclear submarine is, it must be still in the shipyard by 2020.

    Oh, I remember there is one hired from Russia, but I don't think it has a chance to leave the port if the war starts.

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    The Evolution of Type 052 Destroyer (1991-2017)

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    Type 052

    Ships of Class
    Number Pennant number Name Builder Launched Commissioned Fleet Status

    1 112 哈尔滨 / Harbin Jiangnan 28 August 1991 8 May 1994 North Sea Fleet Active
    2 113 青岛 / Qingdao Jiangnan 18 October 1993 28 May 1996 North Sea Fleet Active


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    052B

    Ships of Class
    Number Pennant number Name Builder Launched Commissioned Fleet Status

    1 168 广州 / Guangzhou Jiangnan 20 May 2002 July 2004 South Sea Fleet Active.
    2 169 武汉 / Wuhan Jiangnan Oct 2002 Late 2004 South Sea Fleet Active.



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    052C
    Ships of class
    Number Pennant number Name Builder Launched Commissioned Fleet Status
    1 170 兰州 / Lanzhou Jiangnan 29 April 2003 September 2005 South Sea Fleet Active
    2 171 海口 / Haikou Jiangnan 30 October 2003 December 2005 South Sea Fleet Active
    3 150 长春 / Changchun Changxingdao-Jiangnan 28 October 2010 31 January 2013[6] East Sea Fleet Active
    4 151 郑州 / Zhengzhou[7] Changxingdao-Jiangnan 25 June 2011 26 December 2013 East Sea Fleet Active
    5 152 济南 / Jinan[8] Changxingdao-Jiangnan December 2011 22 December 2014 East Sea Fleet Active
    6 153 西安 / Xi'an Changxingdao-Jiangnan 16 June 2012 9 February 2015 East Sea Fleet Active

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    052D

    Number Pennant number Name Builder Launched Commissioned Fleet Status
    1 DDG-172 昆明 / Kunming Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 28 August 2012 21 March 2014 South Sea Fleet Active[29]
    2 DDG-173 长沙 / Changsha Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 28 December 2012 12 August 2015 South Sea Fleet Active [30]
    3 DDG-174 合肥 / Hefei Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 1 July 2013 12 December 2015 South Sea Fleet Active [31]
    4 DDG-175 银川 / Yinchuan Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 30 March 2014 12 July 2016 South Sea Fleet Active [32]
    5 DDG-117 西宁 / Xining Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 26 August 2014 22 January 2017 North Sea Fleet Active[33]
    6 DDG-118 乌鲁木齐 / Ürümqi [34] Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 30 December 2014 Est April 2017 North Sea Fleet Sea trial
    7 DDG-154 厦门 / Xiamen [35] Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 7 July 2015 Est November 2017 East Sea Fleet Sea trial
    8 DDG-119 贵阳 / Guiyang [36] Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Company 28 November 2015 Est March 2018 North Sea Fleet Sea trial
    9 DDG-155[citation needed] 南京 / Nanjing[citation needed] Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 28 December 2015 Est April 2018 East Sea Fleet[citation needed] Sea trial
    10 DDG-156[citation needed] 太原 / Taiyuan[citation needed] Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 28 July 2016 Est November 2018 East Sea Fleet[citation needed] Fitting out
    11 DDG-120[citation needed] 成都 / Chengdu[citation needed] Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Company 3 August 2016 Est December 2018 North Sea Fleet[citation needed] Fitting out
    12 DDG-157[citation needed] 南宁 / Nanning[citation needed] Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd. 26 December 2016 Est April 2019 East Sea Fleet[citation needed] Fitting out
    13 Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Company Under Construction
    14 Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) Co. Ltd.[citation needed] Under Construction

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