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Chinese J-20 5th Generation Fighter Jet

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by Martian, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. MiG-23MLD

    MiG-23MLD Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    pay attention to the rear end of the plane

    one can visualize that the fin part near the engine nozzle it looks bigger & widened compare to prevoius protypes & also angular pattern too

    should be for stealth reasons

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    Most probably covering exhaust nozzles from side aspect.
     
  4. oikare

    oikare Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Thought that J-20 from China where bigger PAK-50 from Russia. But I've seen wrong.
     
  5. MiG-23MLD

    MiG-23MLD Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    what an ugly airplane:mrgreen:
     
  6. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    No Chinese members here, so no point trolling.
     
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    oikare Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Biggest with PAK-50 air planes ASJ in swedish translation ->->-> attack, spaning and jakt.
     
  8. MiG-23MLD

    MiG-23MLD Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    believe me i do not like it is an ugly aircraft regardless if it is Chinese or not.


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    but J-20 is uglyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, it is not racial the Brits also make ugly planes with few exceptions of course only the French are the kings of aesthetics

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    J-20 stealth fighter will not be sold overseas: report
    Published March 5, 2015
    SOURCE: WANT CHINA TIMES

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    China has made the decision not to export the J-20, the nation’s first fifth-generation stealth fighter designed by Chengdu Aircraft Company, according to Strategy Page, a military website based in Washington DC.

    Because Chengdu Aircraft Company has already produced J-10 and JF-17 fighters for overseas markets, this decision may come as a disappointment for the manufacturer of the stealth fighter, which is still in development. After the fighter’s first appearance in 2011, six prototypes of the J-20 have been produced with subsequent modifications. The last two prototypes have been equipped with active electronically scanned array radar, the article said.

    Three of the six J-20 prototypes were delivered for test flights in 2014. Viewed head on, the J-20 looks similar to Lockheed Martin’s F-22. However, the fighter’s overall shape, weight and engine power is closer to McDonnell Douglas’s F-15C designed during the Cold War era. It is estimated to have a maximum weight of 36 tons.

    A disadvantage for the J-20 is that China is still unable to build a sufficiently powerful engine for the aircraft. The power of its current engine is about the same as the F-15C. The J-20’s engine may approach the thrust of the F-22 when the afterburner is turned on, the article said, but the afterburner can only be used for a few minutes as it consumes too much fuel. Like the F-22, Eurofighter and the Gripen, the J-20 appears to be able to supercruise without using the afterburner.

    In a potential conflict with the United States, China is likely to deploy the J-20 against US carrier battle groups. While China’s capability to design an engine and stealth materials remain in question, the article said a great deal of effort is being invested in overcoming these weaknesses.

    China has been developing the more powerful WS-15 engine for two decades but no date for when the engine will be fitted to the J-20 fighter has been given.
     
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  11. Martian

    Martian Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Chengdu J-20 has look-down shoot-down air dominance

    The maximum altitude is very important. An air-to-air missile fired from a higher-flying plane can travel a lot further and faster with the help of gravity.

    J-20: 65,620 feet [1]
    J-31: 65,000 feet [2]
    F-22: 60,000 feet [3]
    F-35: 50,000 feet

    Source: F-35 Flight Test Update 10 | Code One Magazine
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    References (GlobalSecurity).
    1. J-20 (Jianjiji-20 Fighter aircraft 20) / F-20 Chinese Stealth Fighter
    2. J-31 (Jianjiji-31 Fighter aircraft 21)
    3. F-22 Raptor Specifications
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  12. randomradio

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    It's not gravity, it is atmospheric drag.
     
  13. Martian

    Martian Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    No. The energy is provided by gravity.

    Atmospheric drag is an effect. Not the cause.
     
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    You mean higher potential energy? Gravity comes into play due to weight of the missile. And for potential energy you should be stationary.

    Missiles go farther at higher altitudes because of higher kinetic energy and low drag.

    And gravity is higher closer to the Earth rather than away from it.
     
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    You do not understand.

    When a Chengdu J-20 launches a missile at an F-35, the missile is assisted by gravity as it descends 15,620 feet to strike its target.

    When an F-35 launches a missile at a J-20, the missile has to fight gravity as it tries to climb 15,620 feet (to make up the difference in maximum altitude).

    Gravity has a different function depending on the missile that is fired. You failed to make that distinction.
     
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