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Congress coming back in 2019?

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Guynextdoor, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    Congress might be working on Anti-Incumbent sentiments and create a issue out of ethnic divide...

    But people needs a capable leaders not someone who talk about Jupiter velocity to Rural villagers...
    RG wants to link himself to the farmers and lower class people, but they way he is linking is not synergistic.
     
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  2. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    That's because he became a "Hindu Hruday Samrat" that is why he became PM and that is why UP was a clean sweep because Hindus formed their own vote bank after Secular parties appeased Muslims and sidelined Hindus,where no hindu was safe. Unless RG is going to build Ram Mandir in Ayodhya and takes up sword for Hindu cause,you won't be fooling anyone from Hindus as to what Congress stands for(Appeasement of Muslims and denigrate Hindu religion).
    As of now, all secular parties pandered to 15% vote bloc,they forgot that even if 50% of the 80% Hindus voted,that party gets absolute majority hands down.This consolidation of Hindu vote will happen more in future,Minority vote won't count as it was rendered useless against Hindus voting for a party,Secular politics era is over.Now come the dawn of Hindu Nation politics. kiss the hands and feet of Hindus and ask them for votes nicely,perhaps,they might vote,provided they get all the perks and demands met.
     
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    A_poster Captain FULL MEMBER

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    If you are basing your hopes of defeating BJP on reaction to prohibition, you have already lost. Prohibition (and state beating up their drunk husbands) is extremely popular among rural womenfolk in North-central India, cutting across caste lines. Prohibition would increase support for BJP, or anyone who do it. Only reason politicans balk from prohibition in UP, Bihar, MP, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand, and Orissa is because liquor business is highest earner of revenue for state.


    BJP is a professional political party. It is not going to ban anything for which there is no widespread ground support.
     
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    A_poster Captain FULL MEMBER

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    People/Hindus view Gujarat riots as just desserts for Godhra train burning. Riot scandal ,actually, helped Modi rather that inhibiting him. Corruption scandals of congress/gandhis/vaderas are not viewed as morally righteous action by anyone.
     
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  5. PARIKRAMA

    PARIKRAMA Angel or Devil? Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    I think Congress may comeback provided it axes it's present crop of all senior citizens.. and also start looking beyond Rahul and Sonia.. might be Priyanka a better choice or a neta groomed within the party but outside Gandhi parivar
    Btw,
    The cost of doing business has gone up in last 3 years.. yes Congress were corrupt but the system in NDA is not squeaky clean.

    Secondly the years that have gone by, some good work has been done but compared to the mandate BJP holds and the expectations of the masses, the reality is still a below performance affair..

    Thirdly, the economic revival agenda is somewhat left to gods will instead of solid facilitation of new cycle creation.. nothing to help old issues of bad loans and nor any focus on government spendings to kick-start a revival.

    Fourthly we being a monsoon loving economy, the gov focus on agriculture, the betterment of farm class, the scope of a new age green revolution ECT is not explored at all..

    Fifthly and most importantly the Military modernisation is creeping at a snail pace.. the erstwhile work of UPA 1&2 is still being not approved and most tenders are retendered..

    So Congress if it has a vision, a new leadership and if it can rise above petty communal policies, they have the best chance to revive themselves..

    But then the question to ask- who will bell the cat and tell them look this is the bitter truth.. will the voice of sane mind like Manmohan Singh be heard as a mentor? Or will it be still Gandhi pariwar story.. that's for Congress to decide..

    If NDA starts addressing issues than NDA modi 1 of 2014-19 and modi2 of 2019-24 will be very hard on Congress.. unless anti incumbency kicks in or finally revealing of corruption we might see multiple more mandates.. so Congress has a narrow window to make changes and revive herself strongly..
     
  6. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    If Congress has to re-invent themselves do they still have the hunger and ethics to do it in equal footing.

    They like to play dirty and they will play dirty same with any political parties....
    I didnt understand how AAP won in Punjab, but after talking with couple of friends they were fed up with Akali Dal and Family politics so they wanted a change.

    Mr. Modi won showing that he can re-invent but he needs to take control of this rampant ethnic divisions carried out by RSS (am not saying they are bad but they need to control their followers like Mr. Bagwat said should obey the law there is no place for vigilante justice) and other institution in the other sects too...

    The progress NDA is making is very slow and expected but till what end... People would like to know.

    As you pointed out still there are Red Tapes for opening business, GST still pending, And it has become costly also to open businesses now.

    Congress has to drop its rotten baggage and take responsibility and put forth their agenda if they even want to survive.
     
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  7. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    or maybe in UP the buffoon will scrap all plans and review later, stalling the administration and letting congress allies rise....

    Donal Trump looks btter

    http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/yogi-adityanath-scraps-samajwadi-pension-scheme-orders-review-1680262
     
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    Guynextdoor Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Oh congress is numb and stunned all right....they have no idea how after getting their asses kicked in UP, in less than a month the buffoon there is eroding the BJP.
     
  9. SrNair

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    Problem in India is that you wont get a sudden outcome .Contrary to the West and other developed nations and radical reforms would take years before that dripping down on the bottom of society or starting to appear in nation,thanks to the mammoth demography ,democracy and political structure .
    Reforms in the five years of first NDA would only began appeared during UPA1.
     
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    Wolfpack Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Hahaha, so now congress is worried about BJP eroding it's base?Aww, Such concern for BJP's well being looks cute.:woot:
    BJP got the election mandate because Hindus felt they were not safe in UP.Whatever Yogi does is based on the inputs and complaints he received from the common people on the ground during campaigning for elections.
    So,no,the only erosion is the Muslim Vote which is happening,which worries you so much.:p
    You somehow,think things will get back to normal and Hindus will vote different parties and then Muslims will vote en-bloc for you as in the past,so you can play your Secular politics again,that train my friend has already left the platform,there is no going back now.
    I say it again, Kiss the hands and feet of Hindus and asking them nicely,perhaps they might vote,provided you give them all the perks and have all their demands met.
     
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    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    And point of this offtopic post .

    There is a lot of other factors that influenced those history .If you want to know more of it then you should create new thread and tag us .We will reply .

    Our future is safe in here .
    Perhaps far better than some other parts of India .

    Are you from Bengluru?
     
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  12. InfoWarrior

    InfoWarrior 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Who do you vote for, CPM, Congress, BJP ? Do you have a order of precedence ?
    What do you think about RSS & Modi?
    Where do you live ?
     
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  13. Sancho

    Sancho Major Technical Analyst

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    True reforms often take time, but that's one of the issues of the current government, there weren't many actual reforms, which is why many businesses leaders and analysts say that they are disappointed. We saw a very well made Make in India PR campaign (and I'm saying it for years that BJP is far ahead of Congress in marketing), but apart from a lot of advertisement and big speeches of the PM during his foreign visits, there is a clear lack of results as the outcome. Unemployment has increased

    (http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/...-unemployed-and-many-unemployable-says-report)

    and the manufacturing sector is in decline. GDP development with modest increase and mainly based on statistical changes of the government.

    So the question is, are you or the youth of India in general seeing any positive development of exactly the criterias you mentioned and do you believe things can change in the next 2 years?
     
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  14. Sancho

    Sancho Major Technical Analyst

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    Can you say more about what they told you?
    That confirms my view on AAP voters and that there is a voteshare in India that simply wants something else or something new that BJP and Congress can't provide at the moment.
     
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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    Half i could nt understand much as all they said was their people are fed up the petty politics of the big political institutions, Akali's family politics and Cong corruption were their main key to look somewhere else...
    Yes there is a Vote Share which was tapped by Mr. Modi before with development which is still looking for govt. which can concentrate more on development than party feuds..
     
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