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Defence ministry blocks Navy’s ‘unrealistic’ five-year acquisition plan

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Agent_47, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. Agent_47

    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    The plan has been sent back for pruning, because it would double India’s defence budget. Top Navy officials meet new minister Sitharaman to brief her.

    An elaborate plan drawn up by the Indian Navy to acquire new warships, aircraft, submarines and special equipment over the next five years has met with disapproval from the defence ministry. Officials have termed it ‘unrealistic’, given projected national growth and spending power.

    The five-year plan, which was submitted earlier this year by Navy HQ to the defence ministry, would have ended up more than doubling the Indian defence budget for capital acquisition, which currently stands at Rs 86,529 crore.

    Sources told ThePrint that the plan – which includes acquisition of new aircraft carrier-borne fighter jets – is unlikely to be cleared in the current form, as it would put a great burden on the exchequer, and would leave little money for the Army and the Air Force, which too have major acquisition projects coming up. This is why the Navy has been asked to alter the plan


    India presently spends 12.2 per cent of its annual budget on the defence forces, excluding a pension bill that has increased rapidly after the implementation of the One Rank One Pension policy. In the current financial year, the pension bill has, in fact, surpassed money allocated for capital acquisitions of the armed forces.

    New minister, new hope
    Sources said the Navy’s top brass briefed defence minister Nirmala Sitharaman on the five-year plan in her first few days in office, with a request for clearances.

    Another plan, to build a new aircraft carrier named Vishal, has also been moved again. This plan had been nixed by previous defence minister Manohar Parrikar last year, because it had been deemed too expensive. The project is estimated to cost a whopping Rs 1.35 lakh crore at the approval stage, a projection that is likely to go up with time.

    India already has a joint working group with the US for this aircraft carrier, and the Navy wants to try its luck with the new minister.

    Other major acquisitions
    The Navy has several other major acquisitions coming up, the biggest being the plan to make six new conventionally-powered submarines under the Project 75I plan, which is expected to cost over Rs 60,000 crore.

    Besides this, the Navy plans to acquire 57 new fighter jets for operation on the existing INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier, and the INS Vikrant, which is currently under construction in Kochi.

    In addition, the procurement process for new landing platform docks, minesweepers, shallow water craft and frigates is ongoing.

    https://theprint.in/2017/09/13/defe...s-unrealistic-five-year-acquisition-plan/amp/

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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Now who's fault is that? UPA, IMF, global economy, oil price...? Can't wait to hear the excuses.
     
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    sunstersun Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Man, Indian politics/military procurement is a goddamn rollercoaster.
     
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    What fault? projected GDP growth and Fund expectation doesn't match ,that's it.

    Its very stupid to allot $8 bilion for 6 SSKs and $15 billion for 57 fighters even if we get 10+% growth.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I think US-2 Acquisition is more unrealistic :p They always chooses wrong platform for political deal- first f-16, now US-2
     
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    how come $8 billion for 6 SSKs ?? isn't it expensive?
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    GDP growth declined because of own policies, so even if you have a big wishlist on the navy side (they should cut all the amphibious c..p), the government has it's share for the lack of available funds too.
     
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    Agent_47 Admin - Blog Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Yes, SSKs are usually $500 million a piece. Kilos will be even cheaper.

    Obvious statements. As i said navys projections are too ambitious by any scale.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Declined for 1-2 (atmost 3) Quarters, this isn't going to effect long term growth.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    The navy, genius.

    The navy's expectations were unrealistic. They wanted their regular stuff, ships and subs, and then they wanted 57 next gen aircraft and initiate future carrier plans.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    56 inch of course.

    Waiving off loans, of farmers [for votes] or likes of Malya is ok. But funds for forces to save the nation is a issue... ?
     
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    @Picdelamirand-oil @halloweene @CNL-PN-AA

    I told you guys the 57 Rafale-M's were not realistic. IN simply can't afford it.

    @vstol jockey Tagging you as well.
    MSA by 2023 will also be difficult. The IN will have to be happy with 57 Mig-29K with Mig-35 technologies until the navy gets their multiple submarine programs underway. Which means nothing will happen until after NITI Aayog's 3 year plan is done with, that's 2020.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Farmer loans were waived off by local govts. Mallya's loans were written off by the banks, not the govt. And written off is not the same as waived off.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    That's bare minimum, because its about safety of 17% of human population.

    We either start spending like the 2nd largest defence spender , or trim down our forces to 9th largest.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Hopefully not, but we are not talking about long term here, but the current decline that also leaves less funds for defence modernisation.
     

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