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Desperate Haryanvi men turn 'fake Sikhs' to join Army

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  1. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Desperate Haryanvi men turn 'fake Sikhs' to join Army
    Ajay Sura| TNN | Updated: May 26, 2017, 10.17 AM IST


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    • Candidates use forged documents to show their Sikh identity to join the Army
    • The youths from Haryana see the Army as the only hope for them to earn a decent living

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    CHANDIGARH: When Shiv (name changed), a resident of Kaithal in Haryana, cleared all tests and was selected to join the Indian Army's Sikh regiment in February 2016, instructors at the training centre felt that something was not right. Not only did he have a Hindu name, he couldn't speak even a few lines of Punjabi. When exposed, Shiv candidly admitted that he forged documents to show himself as a Sikh to join the Army.

    This is just one of 51 FIRs registered against young men from Haryana in the past two years who have tried to pass themselves off as Jatt Sikhs so that they can join the Army's Sikh regiment. It is also a reflection of the sheer desperation among youth in Haryana who see the Army as the only hope for them to earn a decent living.

    In most cases, the men were selected for the forces and were caught at the time of training at the Sikh regimental centres. The FIRs studied by TOI show that some of the aspirants had forged documents by adding the word 'Sikh' to their caste certificates. In other cases, they completed the baptism ritual in Sikhism - taking Amrit - at a gurdwara. However, they had completed the ritual after registering themselves for the Army selection process.

    The Indian Army has a number of community-specific regiments as cultural homogeneity has been observed to be a force multiplier during battles. It is a tradition followed since the British era.



    Simarjeet (name changed) could not articulate certain basic tenets of Sikhism when quizzed by officials at the Sikh regiment centre and later confessed that he had taken Amrit in a gurdwara after he was selected for the Army under the Sikh quota. Both Shiv and Simarjeet have been terminated from the Army and now face criminal cases.



    Terming it a dangerous trend, Col Vikram Singh Sankhla, director of the recruiting office at Ambala Cantonment, told TOI that it is difficult to identify such candidates during the selection process unless there is an apparent error in documentation. "Recently, we registered a case against four youths from Kaithal after they were sacked from the Sikh regiment centre," Sankhla said. "We find such cases in almost every recruitment process."


    Explaining the modus operandi, Balwant Rai, ASI and investigating officer, said, "A quick conversion to Sikhism is the most common modus operandi. They are also issued a certificate by the priest. We would not have been able to take action in many cases if the baptism had been done before registering for recruitment. But we found that a majority of those caught using forged minority quota documents, had undergone baptism after completing the selection process."

    Previously, 47 boys from Hisar, Jind, Fatehabad and Sirsa were booked in December 2015 on a complaint of Col R Ranjan for forging documents to join the Army. 30 of them had even joined the Sikh regiment's training centre.
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...e-sikhs-to-join-army/articleshow/58849022.cms
     
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  2. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    All should be dealt with as is - for fraud. Such acts can not be condoned in the garb of 'nationalism'.
     
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  3. shaktimaan

    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    But i didn't able to understand why they forged documents to show them as Sikhs, they can join army in other regiments too
     
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    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Sikh has preference ,Right?
    Why cant they opt Jatt Regt?
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Likely due to vacancies not being available for Jats. Army remains a big source of employment for majority. A soldier needs only be a 12th Standard pass and he gets a job security with minimal qualifications, has a reasonably good pay (if compared to his prospects in civil sector; a 12th class pass will not even get Rs 5000-8000 pm outside) and above all, gets respect still.

    Having said that, the army also provides excellent opportunities to soldiers to upgrade their education and skills sets. Armed Forces have tied up with IGNOU and other institutes to allow soldiers to undertake Degree and Post-Graduate Courses (correspondence and contact) and also ensure that the soldiers can undertake a Pre-release course at the time of their release from service, which allows them to undertake a skill course like disaster management, fire security etc as also Management courses under IIM Ahmedabad, Lucknow, Indore, MDI Gurgaon and other top institutes (a very large pool of trained and relatively disciplined manpower is available for mid to higher level management positions as a result).

    Overall, the package is good. Unfortunately, the common Indian is a lazy Indian. Once in armed forces, generally the soldier is inclined to just earn his pay and remain at the level he is. But this does not mean that all are like that. Quite a few have done exceedingly well.
     
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    Zen0 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Religion & military should be split, it will only lead to mutaning factions if the government is in a weak state.
     
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  7. shaktimaan

    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    all haryanvis are not Jatts...and does jatt regiment have Sikhs or it is Jaat regiment ???
     
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    The BrOkEn HeArT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I don't see any reason why only Sikhs can apply for Sikh regmt.
    If he really wanted to join only Sikh regmt then he should have converted to Sikhism. Nothing wrong in it.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Jats will have Jats

    Sikhs will have Sikhs

    Sikh Li will have other Sikhs

    Gurkhas have Gurkhas

    Garhwalis Garhwal

    Nagas from Nagaland

    MAHAR mixed

    Rajputana Rifles - Rajputs, Jats and Muslims Gujjars too.


    Officer cadres are obviously mixed.

    But pure battalions are now rare.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Thats my question,bcz Sikhs are hard too
     
  11. Project Dharma

    Project Dharma FULL MEMBER

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    Sikh regiment = Jatt Sikhs. Sikhs speak Punjabi. A Haryanvi who converted to Sikhism is going to have a different culture/language and not fit in with the rest of the troops. It will also create resentment amongst the rest of the troops about Haryanvis "defrauding" them. Why be contrarian? A problem has been identified, there is a surplus of Haryanvis who want to join Army, so maybe raise another Jat regiment.
     
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    Jaat regiment = Jaats
    Sikh regiment = Jatt Sikh
    Sikh Li regiment = Mazhabi Sikhs

    Small correction/addition to what @Hellfire said above.
     

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