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Doklam Plateau - India, Bhutan and China Stand-Off

Discussion in 'Defence Analysis' started by Bloom 17, Jul 3, 2017.

  1. lca-fan

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    Don't find any news of that kind.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Do you remember the date I mentioned for start of hostilities? Today is 17th. Just a day short.
     
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    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Official statement not yet given. This is still unconfirmed but correct information.

    I wonder how stock markets are up? As they are first to know such news. @Hellfire should be able to get the latest information.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Nothing on the radar :)

    But then , in Sub-Sector North, there were rumors of a similar episode wherein the PLA was at receiving end in the last stand off about 18-20 months back. Exchange of fire took place in that duration, that was a confirmed incident.

    Nothing so far on the grapevine. All quiet on all fronts :)
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Bhailog keep all ur investments safe...suerly something going to happen in a day or two.
    This chinks will get their flat nose more flattened.
     
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    India shouldn’t determine its strategic posture with China over road along border: Chinese media Published August 17, 2017 SOURCE: ANI Asserting on the Doklam issue, state-run Chinese media said that India should not determine the strategic posture between the two nations over a road along the border. Referring to the month long standoff in the Doklam Plateau an editorial piece in Global Times said, “India is so narrow-minded that it believes a road along the border can determine the strategic posture between China and India.” “India should abandon its Cold War and regional hegemonic mentalities so it can see a great number of opportunities from a rapidly developing China instead of viewing China as a threat. And it would not feel a sense of crisis simply because China is building a road along the border and therefore send troops to trespass on Chinese territory and obstruct Chinese construction,” the daily added. It further said that India should be open-minded rather than viewing the world as full of dangers and challenges. The daily said, “India should reflect on its attitude toward small South Asian countries and the outside world. It should be open-minded rather than viewing the world as full of dangers and challenges.” China has repeatedly asked India to unilaterally withdraw from the Doklam area, or else face the prospect of a military-related escalation. The trouble started in June when India sent troops to stop China building a road in the Doklam area, which is remote, uninhabited territory claimed by both China and India’s ally Bhutan. New Delhi said it sent its troops because Chinese military activity in Doklam, near the trijunction of the borders of India, China and Bhutan, was a threat to the security of its own northeast region, especially in Sikkim. But Beijing has said India had no role to play in the area and diplomatic efforts to defuse the crisis have not made much headway.

    idrw.org .Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website http://idrw.org/india-shouldnt-dete...-road-along-border-chinese-media/#more-145015 .
     
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    Nothing on horizon. Maximum worst case scenario is artillery duel and skirmish in the contained area towards Oct-Nov.
     
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    IMHO, china gains nothing by starting a war in Chumbi valley. They know that they will loose there. So what can be the reason and objective of this war? A war is always fought with a clear cut aim and in pursuit of that aim tactics are evolved which may be to create a diversionary attacks to hide the main intentions. China gets no tangible gains from Chumbi. This whole thing has started due to CPEC which passes thru POK. It is my opinion that main aim of China is to cut off Siachin thru a rapid thrust into Aksai Chin area to completely cut off that section of Indian territory and link up with Pakistan thru Leh/Ladakh. This will bring China directly in Kashmir conflict and give them a reason to have presence in POK as that will be a territory which they wud have won in a war with India. Such a gain of territory also helps them provide security to CPEC which is the main reason for this stand off. So, I think that the main aim of China is Leh/Ladakh and Chumbi valley is a diversionary tactics.
     
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    Chor lagaa ab kotwal ko daatne. Shameless slippery little ****s caught stealing and bullying tiny neighbor. And they do a sloppy job with their laughable primitive retarded propaganda. Since they do not respect any agreements....isko laath ki bartav hi samajh aataa hain. Aise haraamkhor logo se cut off all relations.
     
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    India should have taken out two of theirs.
     
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    Chiefs of Army, Navy, IAF review India’s security preparedness
    Friday, August 18, 2017 By: HT Source Link: CLICK HERE


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    The powerful Chiefs of Staff Committee (CoSC) comprising chiefs of the Army, the Navy and the Indian Air Force on Thursday reviewed the security preparedness of the three services including along the Sino-India border, official sources said.

    The standoff between armies of India and China in Dokalam and attempts by Chinese troops on Tuesday to enter the Indian territory along the banks of Pangong lake in Ladakh were also discussed at the meeting, they said.

    “Issues relating to the country’s external security as well as situation along the borders were discussed,” a source said.

    The meeting came two days after Indian border guards foiled an attempt by Chinese soldiers to enter Indian territory along the banks of Pangong lake.

    Soldiers of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) tried to enter the Indian side in two areas – Finger Four and Finger Five – twice between. But on both the occasions their attempts were thwarted by alert Indian troops.

    Personnel from both sides received minor injuries and the situation was brought under control after the customary banner drill under which both sides hold banners before stepping back to their respective positions.

    The incident was discussed at a flag meeting between the two sides at Leh’s Chusul sector yesterday.

    The Indian and Chinese troops are locked in a bitter face-off at Dokalam in India-China-Bhutan tri-junction for little over two months.

    China has been ramping up rhetoric against India, demanding immediate withdrawal of Indian troops from Dokalam. The Chinese state media, particularly, has carried a barrage of critical articles on the Dokalam stand-off slamming India.

    In the face of heightened rhetoric by Beijing, India has poured in more troops along the entire stretch of its border with China in Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh.

    The “caution level” among the troops has also been raised, according to officials.

    The decision to increase the deployment along the nearly 1,400-km Sino-India border from Sikkim to Arunachal Pradesh was taken after carrying out a detailed analysis of the situation and considering China’s aggressive posturing against India on Dokalam, the officials had told PTI last week.
    http://www.defencenews.in/article/C...F-review-India’s-security-preparedness-283749
     
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    India receives Japanese support on Doklam, says no one should try to change status quo by force
    Friday, August 18, 2017 By: TNN Source Link: CLICK HERE


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    • Japan said there should be no attempt to change the status quo on the ground by force
    • The statement comes as an endorsement of the Indian position that China has violated agreements with India and Bhutan

    In a significant act of support for India in its protracted military standoff with China at Doklam, near the Sikkim-Tibet-Bhutan trijunction, Japan has said there should be no attempt to change the status quo on the ground by force.

    The Japanese statement comes as an endorsement of the Indian position that China has violated agreements with India and Bhutan in attempting to build a road through Doklam plateau, which is part of Bhutan, a development that would be a serious disadvantage to India's military defences.

    Japanese ambassador Kenji Hiramatsu's observation on Doklam comes two months after Indian troops stalled Chinese road construction activities and is seen as endorsing India's stance as being impor tant for a peaceful resolution.

    The Japanese reaction follows two separate interventions by the US calling for direct dialogue between India and China to resolve the crisis while cautioning against unilateral changes on the ground. This, too, has been seen as supportive of India's point of view.

    The US has also indicated support for India by tagging the Hizbul Mujahideen and its leader, Syed Salahuddin, as sources of terror, a snub to Pakistan and its benefactor, China.

    Saying Japan was watching the situation closely , Hiramatsu said it had the potential to affect regional stability. "As far as India's role is concerned, we understand that India is involved in this incident based on bilateral agreements with Bhutan.

    External affairs minister Sushma Swaraj has made it clear that India would continue to engage with dialogue through diplomatic channels with China to find a mutually acceptable solution. We consider this attitude towards peaceful resolution important," Hiramatsu said.

    Categorising the crisis as a dispute between China and Bhutan, Hiramatsu said India's actions were in keeping with bilateral security arrangements with Bhutan.

    Making a pointed reference to China's stance on Doklam, the Japanese ambassador said, "What's important in disputed areas is that all parties involved do not resort to unilateral attempts to change the status quo by force, and resolve the dispute in a peaceful manner." The American and Japanese statements come after angry Chinese rhetoric denouncing India and its actions in the Doklam plateau and demanding a full withdrawal before any talks. India, determined to hold its ground at the site, is preparing for a long standoff, perhaps stretching through the winter.

    On Wednesday, the US called on India and China to hold a direct dialogue. US state department spokesperson Heather Nauert said, "We are encouraging both parties to sit down and have direct dialogue." On August 11, the US had called for talks, adding the standoff was being watched closely. "As you know, we have relationships with both governments. We encourage both parties to have conversations," it said.
    http://www.defencenews.in/article/I...ould-try-to-change-status-quo-by-force-283748
     
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