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Donald Trump says US prepared to go it alone on North Korea nuclear threat

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by lca-fan, Apr 3, 2017.

  1. lca-fan

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    Donald Trump says US prepared to go it alone on North Korea nuclear threat
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    A North Korean ballistic missile test CREDIT: KCNA
    3 APRIL 2017 • 9:09AM


    The US will take unilateral action to eliminate the North Korean nuclear threat if China does not help bring pressure to bear on Pyongyang, Donald Trump has warned.

    Mr Trump, who will meet Xi Jinping, the president of China, for the first time on Thursday, said the US would go it alone if Beijing refuses to cooperate, but refused to say whether he implied taking military action against the hermit dictatorship.

    “China has great influence over North Korea. And China will either decide to help us with North Korea, or they won’t,” Mr Trump said in an interview with the Financial Times.

    “If they do, that will be very good for China, and if they don’t, it won’t be good for anyone.”

    “If China is not going to solve North Korea, we will. That is all I am telling you,” he added.

    Watch | North Korea's military arsenal

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    Conventional thinking is that China would have to take a lead role in imposing further sanctions on the regime in Pyongyang because of its economic leverage.

    Mr Trump has been deeply critical of China in the past, especially its trade policy. However, he said he hoped that would not stand in the way of a deal being reached at the summit with Mr Xi at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida next week.

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    Donald Trump and Xi Jinping CREDIT: AP
    “I have great respect for him. I have great respect for China. I would not be at all surprised if we did something that would be very dramatic and good for both countries and I hope so,” he told the paper.


    Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the UN, also issued a stark warning saying America would "no longer take excuses from China".

    Mrs Haley said: "They need to show us how concerned they are. They need to put pressure on North Korea. The only country that can stop North Korea is China, and they know that.

    "China has to cooperate. This is now down to, do we want to continue to see these ballistic missile attacks from North Korea or does China want to do something about it?"

    Mrs Haley spoke as the US took over the rotating presidency of the Security Council. She added: "We're going to say what we think, and we're going to move the ball and that's what this is about."

    Watch | Can Palm Springs recognise China's first couple?

    01:28

    Concern has been mounting about the North Korean missile program in the US for some years. Barack Obama’s administration identified North Korea as the top national security issue for Mr Trump’s administration during the handover of power.

    Watch | Video emerges of N Korea ballistic missile test

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    Some US security officials believe Kim Jong Un’s regime may have a nuclear-armed missile capable of hitting the United States within four years.

    South Korean intelligence warned last week that another nuclear test by the North is imminent, with analysts suggesting Pyongyang may seek "overshadow" the US-Chinese summit in Florida with a show of force.

    South Korean government sources told the Korea JoongAng Daily that preparations at the North's Punggye-ri nuclear proving grounds would be completed before the weekend.

    Last month, North Korea fired a missile into the sea off the east coast of the Korean peninsula just as Mr Trump was hosting Shinzo Abe, the Japanese prime minister, at Mar-a-Lago.

    Watch | Kim Jong-un laughs and jokes watching military weapon tests

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    Rah Jong-yil, a former head of South Korean intelligence, told the Telegraph that China could tackle the issue “very easily by closing the border entirely and completely strangling all business and economic traffic between the two countries."


    Last week US senator John McCain said only Beijing could control Kim Jong-un, who he branded “crazy fat kid.”

    Mr McCain told MSNBC earlier this month: “China is the only one that can control Kim Jong-un, this crazy fat kid that’s running North Korea. They could stop North Korea’s economy in a week.”

    On Thursday Mr Trump had warned the summit would be "very difficult".

    He said: "The meeting next week with China will be very a difficult one in that we can no longer have massive trade deficits and job losses. American companies must be prepared to look at other alternatives."

    The summit is taking place at Mar-a-Lago, Mr Trump's palatial club in Florida which has been called the "Winter White House"

    His son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner has emerge as a key architect of the summit along with Cui Tiankai, the Chinese ambassador.

    The two men chose Mar-a-Lago as the venue and have reportedly worked closely on crafting a joint statement the two leaders will deliver.

    Mr Kushner and his wife Ivanka, Mr Trump's daughter, were said to have been invited to the Chinese Embassy in February.

    Watch | Xi Jinping: how the Chinese president spent his formative years living in a cave

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    Ash Carter, US Defence Secretary under President Barack Obama, said he doubted Beijing would cooperate.

    He said: "I've been working on the North Korea problem since 1994 and we have consistently asked Chinese leaders, because they uniquely have the historical and the economic relationship with North Korea, to make a difference. They haven't used that influence, and so it's hard for me to be optimistic with that."


    Mr Carter, speaking on Sunday shortly before Mr Trump's comments, warned a US pre-emptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear weapons risked triggering an invasion of South Korea.

    "I'm confident of the outcome of that war, which would be the defeat of North Korea," he said. "But I need to caution you, this is a war, an intensity of violence associated with it, that we haven't seen since the last Korean War.

    "Even though the outcome is certain, it is a very destructive war so one needs to proceed very carefully here."

    Mr Trump said he believed Brexit would be a “great deal" for the UK and also " really good" for the European Union.

    His view on whether other countries would leave the EU appeared to have moderated, and he now believed they were less likely to.

    He said Europe seemed to be "really holding" and had done a "better job" since the UK voted to leave.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...prepared-go-alone-north-korea-nuclear-threat/
     
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    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Time to take out North Korea. Would be good for India as it is testing ground for pakistani Nukes and North Korean missiles find their way to Pakistan.
    So the sooner the better and will calm down China too.


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    OK, first of all in order to start a war, you have to provoke the opponent. Now what are the possible provocations?

    Second, if NK is bluffing regarding it Nukes, how will it respond to the provocation?

    Third if it really has the weapons, will it launch it from the start? Or will US start with massive bombing to take out the nukes from the word go?

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    BTW going to market, will reply to replies in night.
     
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    Trump think he is still selling condos in Florida.
     
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    He will talk like that for the next 4 years and then fizzle out.
     
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    Ash Carter on where a US pre-emptive strike on North Korea could lead
    By Joy LinApr 2, 2017, 12:22 PM ET
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    WATCH: The Deputy National Security Adviser says Pyongyang could be able to hit the U.S. with a nuclear-armed missile before the end of Trump's term.
    Former Defense Secretary Ash Carter says a U.S. preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear-weapons program could prompt the country’s leader, Kim Jong Un, to try to invade South Korea.

    Carter, who served as defense secretary in the Obama administration, told ABC News’ Martha Raddatz on “This Week” Sunday that if the U.S. preemptively strikes North Korea, “It's quite possible that they would as a consequence of that launch … attempt an invasion of South Korea.”


    “I'm confident of the outcome of that war, which would be the defeat of North Korea,” Carter said. “But, Martha, I need to caution you, this is a war [with] ... an intensity of violence associated with it that we haven't seen since the last Korean War.”

    “Even though the outcome is certain, it is a very destructive war,” the former defense secretary said, noting that the South Korean capital of Seoul, with about 25 million area residents, is on the border between the two countries. “So one needs to proceed very carefully here.”

    Carter’s comments come as President Trump is set to meet this week with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    The Trump administration wants China to get North Korea to end its nuclear program.

    But Carter said the Chinese have been “unwilling” to take on that role because, in the short term, they are “fearful of a collapse of North Korea or a war” that would result in a “unified Korea allied with the United States on their border.”


    Carter also commented on U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley’s taking a different, tougher tone toward Russia than President Trump himself.

    "In strategic affairs, clarity and consistency are very important,” Carter said. “This is our government and our foreign policy, and we all need to wish it success. But there does need to be clarity and consistency."
    https://www.google.co.in/amp/abcnew...-emptive-strike-north-korea/story?id=46512192
     
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    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Just saw program on newsnation US is getting ready for war with North Korea. Decision for war would be taken after Trump xi meeting. And war could start as early as 6th April.

    Only problem is it could escalate to world war 3.
     
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    No chance .Trump is all bluster.NoKo is hedging between China & the US.Something both , China & the US are aware and tired of.This is just the pre cursor to tighter sanctions , this time with China being more serious about its implementation .There must be some deal with what China gains out of supporting full sanctions being implemented too.That's one of the reasons for the visit .

    However much China is discomfited by NoKo particularly by Kim at the helm it know only too well that with NoKo gone , the US will be firmly entrenched in the Korean peninsula adding to China's headaches .They'd have only iron brother Pakistan for company then apart from that African super power - South Sudan .
     
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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    This war if it happens will not escalate to WWIII. Rather it would be timid destruction of nuke facilities and imposing tighter sanctions and control. As there is no political substitute to effect change of power.
     
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    Chances are extremely slim .But if de fanging happens successfully , you can bet it'd have a domino effect . Pakistan & Iran won't be too far behind .
     
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    Pak is untouchable with Chinese Behind their back.
    We were expecting Going against Iran than NK when he got elected. But then who knows sane minds can be predicted, but minds like trump edging for a war to get out of Debt it is not predictable. He want to control the narrative else he will not risk it that is onething for sure.
     
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    Nobody and nothing is untouchable .We still are in an era of a sole super power or hyper power as Chinese media prefers to label the US.

    If NoKo didn't keep calling attention to itself with all those N tests , they'd still be ignored as they were all these years .The action may have shifted to S Asia or the Persian Gulf .But there is only so much brinkmanship you can indulge in and so much the US can endure .If sanctions are properly enforced , NoKo will be on its knees.That's what will be addressed in the days to come .War is still a long way off .
     
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    Over Estimation of US, Unless Chinese get alternative route to Africa, they will keep Pak out of troubles with US. There would be small skirmish NK nuke facilities would be destroyed, and NK will be sanctioned and for Chinese to enforce, Xi will Discuss in the meeting.
     
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    NK know their limitations , whole country may become a suicide bomber , they will detonate nukes on their surface only. problem is numbers if its going to be huge then we all are in trouble.
     

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