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Donald Trump vows 'new vetting' to weed out Islamic terrorists

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by lca-fan, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Hezbollah is a Iranian proxy, no different from many proxies that the Americans have nourished. But that doesn't mean the American civilians are radicals too.

    Banning Iran was just politics.
     
  2. VCheng

    VCheng RIDER GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    The next mid-term election will be hugely important. Much can happen between now and then to influence the results, with consequences for the remainder of Trump's term.
     
  3. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is not a Muslim ban,' Donald Trump says of immigration move
    • said America is a proud nation of immigrants.HIGHLIGHTS
    • The US president insisted that it was not was "not a Muslim ban".
    • Trump on Friday banned visitors from 7 Muslim-majority nations.
    WASHINGTON: President Donald Trump insisted on Sunday that his executive order temporarily halting travel from seven majority-Muslim countries was "not a Muslim ban," after it was met with confusion, global outrage and huge protests across the United States.

    "America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave," Trump said in a statement.

    "This is not about religion — this is about terror and keeping our country safe," he said, adding that more 40 Muslim countries were not affected by his order.

    His defense came in the form of an official written statement issued by the White House, a rare move for a president who has favored speaking directly to his audience via Twitter.

    The president singled out the media, which he has attacked repeatedly since coming into office just over a week ago.


    "We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows," he said, referring to the United States.

    "To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting."

    Trump signed the executive order on Friday, suspending the arrival of all refugees for at least 120 days, Syrian refugees indefinitely and barring citizens from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen for 90 days.

    While Trump has cited the September 11, 2001, attacks as justification for his move, he did not target any of the 9/11 hijackers' home countries — Egypt, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

    Judges in at least four states with major international airports — Massachusetts, New York, Virginia and Washington — issued temporary stays to block parts of Trump's executive order, preventing authorities from deporting people who had been detained.

    Trump recalled that his predecessor Barack Obama, a Democrat, had paused for six months in 2011 the Iraqi refugee program.

    And he stressed that the seven countries targeted by his ban were also listed by Obama.

    But the previous administration's restrictions were of a different sort, requiring visas for people having traveled to those countries in the past five years.

    "We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days," Trump added.

    "I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as president I will find ways to help all those who are suffering."
    http://m.timesofindia.com/world/us/...-of-immigration-move/articleshow/56864437.cms
     
  4. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Why Imran Khan thinks Donald Trump should include Pakistan on travel ban list
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    Imran Khan.
    HIGHLIGHTS
    • Imran Khan believes Pakistanis leave the country because it is corrupt
    • A US travel ban on Pakistanis would help them focus on fixing their own country, Imran said
    • The former cricketer also criticized Nawaz Sharif for his alleged corruption.
    NEW DELHI: He didn't know this would happen when he suggested it yesterday, but Pakistani politician Imran's Khan wish that Donald Trump include Pakistan on his US travel banlist, may just come true.

    The former cricketer expressed this startling wish of his at a rally yesterday of his party Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaaf (PTI). And hours later, White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told CBS News it is possible Pakistan may be added to the list of seven countries whose nationals are barred from entering the US. Preibus said that for now Pakistanis will face "extreme vetting."
    But why does Imran want Pakistan on that list? Here's his rationale, in his own words, as quoted by The Nation:

    "Now that Trump has become the (US) president, it is likely his travel ban will be extended to Pakistan. I think, to an extent, and I want all Pakistanis to hear it, that he should go ahead and extend the ban to Pakistanis so that we can focus on fixing our country."

    That's one way to do things, some would say
    The PTI chief elaborated a bit on his wish, The Nation said.

    According to him, most educated Pakistanis leave the country because they believe only knowing someone powerful will get them a good job if they stay on.

    "The day we bring back the merit system back to Pakistan, all our best citizens will return and work for the betterment of this country," Imran said, adding that the country can only improve if its citizens work for progress, if corruption is curbed and when justice is delivered.

    The former Pakistan captain also ranted against his favourite punching bags - Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, the US and the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

    "We will have to fix Pakistan... the day we decide this is our home and we have to fix it, we won't beg for loans from the US and IMF," he said.

    About Sharif: "He goes abroad even if he has headache."

    And somewhat dramatically, he added that the day Pakistan got a government that is convinced it has to live and die in Pakistan, the country would be fixed.
    http://m.timesofindia.com/world/pak...n-on-travel-ban-list/articleshow/56866474.cms
     
  5. lca-fan

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    Pakistan could be included in immigration ban list in future, says White House

    White House official indicated on Sunday, acknowledging for the first time that Pakistan was under consideration to be put in that category.

    "The reason we chose those seven countries was, those were the seven countries that both the Congress and the Obama administration identified as being the seven countries that were most identifiable with dangerous terrorism taking place in their country," White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, told CBS News.

    Trump has issued a controversial executive order banning immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries -- Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Yemen, Syria and Somalia.


    "Now, you can point to other countries that have similar problems, like Pakistan and others. Perhaps we need to take it further. But for now, immediate steps, pulling the Band-Aid off, is to do further vetting for people traveling in and out of those countries," Priebus said.

    This is for the first time that the Trump Administration has publicly acknowledged about considering putting Pakistan into that list.

    Currently as per the executive order, visitors from countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan are subject to extreme vetting.

    Priebus said the executive orders were signed after a lot of planning.

    "We're not going to advertise to the world that we're going to put a stop or at least a further vetting on travel in and out of our country from these seven places," he said.

    "Some people have suggested, that, well, maybe we should have given everyone a three-day warning. But that would just mean that a terrorist would just move up their travel plans by three days. Identifying too many people in these countries and giving them a heads-up in these countries would only potentially flag the executive order for bad order," Priebus said.

    "The President has a call with leadership in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates and other countries around world. And I'm sure this topic may come up," he said.

    Priebus asserted that Americans have to be protected first.

    "These are countries that harbour and train terrorists. These are countries that we want to know who is coming and going in and out of to prevent calamities from happening in this country," he said.

    "We're not willing to be wrong on this subject. President Trump is not willing to take chances on this subject. He was elected president in many respects because people knew that he was going to be tough on immigration from countries that harbour terrorists," Priebus said.

    "I can't imagine too many people out there watching this right now think it's unreasonable to ask a few more questions from someone traveling in and out of Libya and Yemen before being let loose in the United States. And that's all this is," he said.http://m.timesofindia.com/world/us/...ure-says-white-house/articleshow/56860913.cms
     
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    I wish that it is not. From what I am reading, this ban has backfired pretty bad in USA, so I do not want Pakistan to be banned as that it could not play victim card.
     
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    It was my understanding the ban only covers non-US, non-EU citizens.
     
  8. BMD

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    Well it's looking like a Muslim just shot up a Mosque in Canada.

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  9. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    In this case I would be more worried about that Alexandre, in case he's not Muslim.
     
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    But he is a Canadian, which is at least half way there.
     
  11. VCheng

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    Incorrect. Khadir is just a witness. Only Bissonnette, a known right-wing radical, is the terrorist.
     
  12. INDIAN NATIONALIST

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    They value stricter vetting and lower flow of migrants. But if there wasn't evidence of imminent danger from the long-standing procedures then cancelling travel visas that were already issued was too far; perhaps intentionally so.
     
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    Well that makes a change.
     
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    The danger is a long-term one. When it's imminent, it's too late.
     
  15. VCheng

    VCheng RIDER GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    Terrorism is not unique to any one religion or culture.
     

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