Donald Trump won't tolerate 'dual role' from India's neighbours

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    Donald Trump won't tolerate 'dual role' from India's neighbours, says US's Republican Hindu Coalition
    TNN & Agencies | Updated: Jan 3, 2017, 10.53 AM IST
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    • Donald Trump 'wont tolerate a dual role from India's neighbours', said the founder of the US Republican Hindu Coalition
    • Shalabh Kumar of the Coalition also said one can expect to see Bollywood celebrities at Trump's swearing-in ceremony on January 20
    [​IMG]Shalabh Kumat (L), founder of the Republican Hindu Coalition with his daughter Manasvi Mamgai, a former Miss India. (ANI Photo)
    NEW DELHI: US President-elect Donald Trump reportedly made it clear to a US Republican Hindu group that he's "not going to tolerate a dual role from India's neighbours."

    Shalabh Kumar, an Indian-American businessman and founder of the Republican Hindu Coalition+ told ANI that this was the message Trump conveyed in his meetings with him. Kumar is part of Trump's transition team.

    "The US President-elect made that policy very, very clear, that he is not going to tolerate a dual role from India's neighbours," said Kumar referring to Pakistan.

    "You need good defence cooperation among friends, which is happening but is going to accelerate dramatically in the common fight against terrorism+ ," Kumar added, according to ANI.

    Kumar is reportedly closely associated with the BJP and the RSS, according to The Economic Times. He held a rally for Trump in New Jersey, in the final leg of the Presidential campaign, and donated a whopping $898,000 (approximately Rs 6 crore) towards Trump's campaign.

    Another of Kumar's goals - and Trump's, according to him - is to increase trade between India and the US in one year to $300 billion from the current $100 billion. "That will be a win-win for both sides as both will gain millions of jobs," Kumar said.

    Kumar and his daughter Manasvi Mamgai , a former Miss India, also revealed there will be Bollywood celebrities performing at Trump's inauguration as President on January 20.

    "You will see Bollywood biggies, Bollywood entertainment and all the 'jhatkas' and 'matkas'," Mamgai said.
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    She was extremely hopeful about Trump's relationship with India.

    "I think Trump is going to be the best US president for India so far as he has shown support to us, he's very vocal about it," Mamgai said.

    In November, after Trump's win, Kumar said he was confident the President elect will approve a bill to declare Pakistan a terror state. "President Trump and PM Narendra Modi will undoubtedly share a good chemistry," he said back then.

    In September, two influential US Congressmen, for the first time ever, introduced a legislation to designate Pakistan a terror state by the administration in Washington. Congressman Ted Poe, chairman of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism, along with Congressman Dana Rohrabacher introduced the 'Pakistan State Sponsor of Terrorism Designation Act' in the House. The legislation calls on the US administration to provide a report on designating Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism.

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    This Shalbh Kumar is just a donor. Don't take his boasting too seriously. It is just that he supported Trump ,and unexpectedly, he won. This is good for Indian-Americans as a lot of them had hitched their wagon to Hillary; but when it come to external affairs, our lobbyists carry more weight than him, and if USA does not want to improve relations, no amount of donation and lobbying would help. We play the game because they let us play.
     
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    Those are big words, it remains to be seen how much Trump delivers on, but for now, before Trump even takes office, at least the noises coming out of his campaign and associates are encouraging.
     
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    He's not *just* a donor, he's more significant than that. However you are right, he isn't a member of cabinet or anything. And either way, it's important India keeps up its lobbying efforts both directly in Washington DC and other more indirect lobbying methods.
     
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    US is vary of China as it is both financially and militarily strong unlike erstwhile soviets who were militarily strong but financially were weak in front of US due to their fiat currency dollar as US could print as much dollar as it can but soviets could not print Rouble in the same way which collapsed soviet economy and finally Soviet state. But now China is different since it is financially strong all because of US manufacturing moving to China which helped them with export surplus. They also infringed upon IPR of all western companies made duplicate products and sold them cheaper to original products in smaller countries without any regards to international laws.

    All this money was invested into US bonds and China holds huge amounts of dollars which it can use to destabilize US financially and promote Yuan as world currency so it can print as much as it wants and push dollar out of world currency status this will weaken US completely and this is what US fears the most.

    To counter China US is mulling shifting manufacturing from China to India and making India strong financially and militarily. Previous congress govt's closeness to Russia prevented this but modi has changed this all hence all this closeness to Japan and US and now noises about cooperation with Taiwan as well.
     
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    India faces very tough diplomatic challenges to conquer with Trump administration reducing US role in global affairs where ever it do not affect in economic american interests along with added unknown faltering mind of trump on any policy matter he is not a stable man. china, Russia, Pakistan, Iran will be getting closer with initial sign of there having same thoughts on engaging talibans much t the discomfort of India

    In past few yrs India has placed too many eggs in american basket and now unstable trump at the helm things are going to very tough for India diplomatically
     
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    "He is not a stable man"?

    I advise you to make comment about Trump's stability after he has actually been president for some time.

    Right now a certain image of him has been allowed to permeate because the usual "stable" quarters (who are actually quite unstable where it counts) have painted and continue to paint him a certain way.

    India was very correct to put enough eggs to hedge with the US....especially since the end of the cold war. Like it or not, the US is the sole superpower.

    Trump actually needs to wield and exercise his power for some time before we can label him as something.

    And let whomever "engage" with the Taliban collectively however they want. The Afghan govt can respond with India and US help should it have the fortitude to do so. This should include a Samson option.

    Mad dog Mattis, the incoming Defense Secretary, is the first one to come from the battlefields of Afghanistan with firsthand direct experience of Pakistan's treachery especially as far as US field operations go.

    Again you have to give such people a chance and some time to construct and implement policy before dismissing them on account of the anti-Trump media....who mind you were braying non-stop from every hill that Trump had 0% chance of winning (that in itself should tell you how independent and accurate they really are).
     
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    Even if Trump happens to be a stable man like Ronald Reagan he will reduce US role in ongoing conflicts, he will let China, Russia deal with it. Days of lone super power are over now with Russia showing the way in syria and now it will show in Iran, Afghanistan too along with china. During trump presidency even if he is stable the US will reduce NATO and non nato allies military support too and will make them pay for it. so there is bound to be lots of trouble for closer allies like Japan, South Korea leave aside India
     
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    You can't take any and every campaign trail statement at face value. He has however toed a very consistent line on China, and he backed it up with the phone call to Taiwan's leader not too long ago, if ever there was going to be a US President who could and would take on China, I'd bet money it'd be Trump.
     
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    Its better the US withdraws for a while, becomes economically stronger during the detente and then deals with the situation a couple decades from now....just like how they did so in the cold war from the late 60s to 80s (esp after Vietnam war ended).

    They ruined their economy quite substantially with the Iraq war (a parallel to the Vietnam war in many ways) and then their foreign policy under Obama was a nightmare. Its time their allies fork out more money for their defense and become more militarily independent. That in itself will help the concept of the multipolar world (of say the power slots from #2 to #10) substantially that will smooth out the more aggressive posturing by Russia and China.

    Basically the US needs a timeout after being in the ring for so long (Iraq + Afghanistan) and do some gym training with updated equipment...and give selective (but not free) access to this gym for countries they like to varying degrees. Then they can enter the World champ series themselves when they are ready and feel like they need to at that juncture.

    Continuation of the Bush+Obama doctrine under Hillary (or whoever the establishment Republican would have been if it wasnt Trump) would have a) risked nuclear war with Russia over the proposed no fly zone concept b) continued to sap the US economy. Strategically, Trump is making the right move here, its time for some R&R....but stay engaged where it counts in the meantime (minimum cost, maximum results).
     
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    America is not retreating from world affairs because it wants to, it's facing the reality of a rising China, and India; and a more assertive Russia. We are moving away from a unipolar world to a multipolar world, which I think is to everybody's benefit. I believe Trump recognizes this.

    Trumps comments on NATO may seem controversial, but he's actually right when he questions its need after the Soviet Union collapsed. The structure has remained the same since then. NATO is the de facto military of Europe and totally unfair given that US is the biggest component of NATO. An adjustment need to be made and Europe needs to pay more for its own defence than rely on US.

    This will happen in Asia too, where Japan, Australia, and South Korea will have to further spend to expand their militaries than rely on US.

    This is Trump's worldview.
     
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