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Eurofighter Typhoon

Discussion in 'Europe & Russia' started by 500, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I don't think their procurement laws allow that. Else they wouldn't have held a tender in the first place, they would have gone for the FMS.
     
  2. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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  3. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Most Spanish Eurofighter jets can't fly: report
    Steve Tallantyre 27 October 2014 11:54 CET+01:00

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    Most of Spanish Eurofighters (like the one shown here being landed by King Felipe VI) are said to be non-operational due to a lack of spare parts and delayed inspections. Photo: Cristina Quicler/AFP

    Sources inside Spain's military have reportedly told a Spanish newspaper that only a handful of the country's Eurofighter Typhoon jets are fully operational and that semi-retired F-18 aircraft are being called back into full service to meet NATO commitments.
    According to Spanish daily El Confidencial Digital, unnamed military sources have warned that the Eurofighter Typhoon air fleet is crippled by breakdowns, lack of spare parts and delayed inspections.

    The claims come just a day after Spain announced plans to pump €10 billion ($12.7 billion) into new defence programs after six years of cutbacks as a result of the economic crisis.

    Eurofighters were not, however, named in the list of projects due to receive a funding boost.

    The investment will instead go towards the new F-110 frigates, drones, and the infamous S-80 sinking submarines.

    Only six Eurofighters in Spain's Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) service in bases at Morón de la Frontera and Albacete are currently capable of taking off, according to military insiders. These jets are kept ready to scramble 24 hours a day, year-round, to intercept suspicious aircraft in Spanish airspace.

    The rest of Spain's Eurofighter planes have allegedly been grounded by breakdowns, missing spare parts and queues for inspections after reaching the maximum number of hours in the air.

    The Eurofighter Typhoon was jointly developed by the UK, Spain, Germany and Italy.

    Germany recently reported a manufacturing defect in the Eurofighter's fuselage which could lead to in-flight instability. It grounded its planes and launched an investigation but Spain chose instead to order its mechanics and pilots to perform pre-flight inspections.

    In June, Spain's foreign minister José Manuel García Margallo claimed that four Eurofighters would be sent to the Baltic region as part of the country's NATO commitments. But because of the condition of the Eurofighter fleet, sources inside the military claim that ageing F-18 fighter jets were being prepared to be sent instead.

    Official Ministry of Foreign Affairs sources denied this and insisted that Spain would still be able to send Eurofighters as originally intended. They also denied the existence of any shortage of spare parts.
     
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  4. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.janes.com/article/73995/dsei-2017-bae-systems-touts-large-area-display-for-typhoon
     
  5. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2017/09/saudi-eurofighter-typhoon-crashes-in-yemen.html?m=1
     
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  6. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    https://theaviationist.com/2017/09/...ng-combat-mission-in-yemen-killing-the-pilot/
     
  7. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.janes.com/article/74142/qatar-to-buy-eurofighter-typhoons
     
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    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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  9. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Congratulations to the Brits
     
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    maybe another saudi order? maybe 48+1?
     
  11. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    https://www.defensenews.com/air/2017/09/18/qatar-to-buy-24-typhoon-fighters-from-uk/
     
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    Interesting viewpoint on a French blog: https://dutungstenedanslatete.blogs...atari-londres-vient-elle-de.html?view=classic

    Instead of copy/pasting a Google Translate output, I'll summarize it quickly:
    - The Typhoon's continued development is largely carried out by the UK alone, since the other partner countries (Spain, Italy, Germany) don't care about having a credible air force as much as they care about reducing their public spending.
    - Saudi Arabia, who bought 72 Typhoons, is the UK's real partners for Typhoon development. It was the Saudi who paid for various integrations on the Typhoon, such as the Damocles pod or the StormShadow cruise missile.
    - Saudi Arabia hates Qatar and will likely be upset that this small emirate can benefit from Saudi investments in Typhoon development
    - As a result it's possible that if the sale is realized, Saudi Arabia will simply stop funding further upgrades of the Eurofighter, turning the short-term win of a sale to Qatar into a long-term loss. Especially as the UK was trying to convince the Saudi to buy another 72 Typhoons.


    Now one could argue that the same is true of the F-15. After all the F-15QA sold to Qatar is largely based on the F-15SA sold to Saudi Arabia. That's true, but the situation of the F-15 is different. It's an older fighter and one that the USA do not care especially to market abroad anymore. Boeing also exports the F-18, and the USA focus more on that one and the F-35.
     
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    It is not worth while to share, this point of view only interests the French, it allows us to laugh at the flight of enthusiasm that seized the British.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Yes and no. Yes the UK is the pushing force behind EF upgrades, but that's a matter of necessity, because they will replace their Tornados earlier than other partners, therfore they need certain capabilities earlier.

    Nonsense! They paid for customizations to their fighters based on their requirements. They need Damocles, because Litening which was available for the EF is not on offer for them. The question is, why didn't they use the Sniper pod that other Gulf countries will use on their EFs?
    Integration of cruise missiles was part of the P3E upgrade anyway.



    That's why they jointly supported rebels in Syria and jointly did air strikes against Syrian targets. :rolleyes2:

    The blogger is certainly not the most reliable source on EF matters.
     

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