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F-22 Wreckage Found in Alaska, Pilot Still Missing

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by CONNAN, Nov 21, 2010.

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  1. CONNAN

    CONNAN Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Air Force rescue personnel have found the wreckage of what they believe to be the F-22 Raptor that went missing on Nov. 16 from Elmendorf Air Force base in Alaska, according to a statement put out by the service tonight.

    Search and rescue crews have found the apparent wreckage of an F-22 Raptor Nov. 17 that was assigned to the 3rd Wing here.

    However, the pilot is still missing.

    “We’re still doing an active search for the pilot,†the AP quoted Col. Jack McMullen, commander of the 3rd Wing at Elmendorf, as saying. “Perhaps he ejected.â€

    Despite the extreme Alaskan weather, the pilot may have a chance at survival, McMullen told the AP.

    “They have survival gear,†McMullen said. “He’s Arctic trained to survive in that environment. He’s got the gear on. He’s got stuff in his survival kit, so that he could hunker himself down and fight the extreme cold.â€

    McMullen provided more details on the incident in an Air Force press release:

    “Last night a two-ship (flight) of F-22s, Rocky One and Rocky Three, were finished with training … about 100 miles north of here,†Colonel McMullen said.

    Everything was normal until about 7:40 p.m., he said, when Rocky Three fell off the radar scope and the pilot lost communications.

    “The other pilot (Rocky One) went to a tanker, got gas and then continued to look for the mishap pilot,†Colonel McMullen said. “He could not find him. At that time, the Alaska Air National Guard scrambled a C-130 and rescue helicopters. They searched the entire night.â€

    About 10:15 a.m., an Alaska Air National Guard helicopter found a site that fits the data and the description of where rescuers thought the mishap probably occurred, Colonel McMullen said.

    “They found the crash site,†he said. “They were unable to land at the crash site and take a closer look. We scrambled another helicopter that should be in the area in the next few moments.â€

    Steve Trimble over at Flight Global notes that this is the second F-22 loss in little over a year, and third overall, bringing the total number of jets that will ultimately be fielded to 185, unless more are built.

    The F-22 costs $143 million apiece according to the Air Force (although its critics claim the real cost is far higher) and before this latest crash, the Raptor had a Class A mishap rate of six to seven per 100,000 flight hours, according to the folks at Strategy Page.

    A Class A mishap is any incident involving an aircraft where over $1 million worth of damage occurs.

    It should be noted that reaching this threshhold is fairly easy with the Raptor given its low-observable coatings and other high priced features. In fact, a “minor†collision last year between an F-22 and a Canadian CF-18 parked on the ramp at Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida was declared a Class A mishap.

    Hoping they find the pilot alright.

    http://defensetech.org/2010/11/17/f-22-wreckage-found-in-alaska-pilot-still-missing/
     
  2. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I just don't the YF-22 program is such a success that they make it out to be
    Here are some facts
    To the best of my knowledge there has been no proposed IR detection upgrade to the F-22.
    There are many things that the American fans forget when they rate the raptor.

    The program has been scrapped, only 187 have been ordered, and not only that there have been no new orders to replenish the two birds that crashed.
    As far as I know there is no work going on any F-22 C/E, they may claim that it was a cold war project, which is only going to waste money, but this doesn't explain why they're working on the F-15 Silent eagle, an aircraft, which is only a little less expensive than the Raptor.

    Then there is also the export ban, Australia and Japan have asked for the bird, but have been refused, they're not even getting a dumbed down version.

    I'm really surprised they're taxpayers are not asking questions.

    But I'm sure averageamerican will throw some light on this issue.
     
  3. CONNAN

    CONNAN Major ELITE MEMBER

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    i still believe its an American propaganda jet no doubt its a good one but its capabilities are over hyped
     
  4. tariqkhan18

    tariqkhan18 Major Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    You are never going to get a mature fighter unless its built in large numbers, and is continuously evolved. F-22 no doubt changed the generation of aircraft and i believe it will continue to mature over time.
     
  5. Dilemma

    Dilemma Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    To my best knowledge, the Silent Eagle R&D is not funded by the US government. Boeing is funding the program in order to bag export orders from countries who operated the previous versions of the F-15.

    Coming to the Raptor, it undoubtedly is the best fighter out there at this time, no questions. The US government decided to scrap the program and freeze orders was due to the fact that the planes were too expensive to buy and operate.

    The production plants after completion of production will not be disbanded, they will be kept in storage incase of war so that they can be restarted quickly. Plus, the Raptors will be upgraded regularly so that they don't become obsolete.
     
  6. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    I second that.
     
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