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F-35 Lightning II : News & Discussions

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picard, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Lets see India buys 2 obsolete Rafales for 500 million.
     
  2. BMD

    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Vergennes.
     
  3. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    It is completly flaw. That is the normal wrong way to compute F-35 price. People takes the last contract price to L.M. and divide by the number of planes. In this case it is $6,370,955,495 divided by 57 that is to say $ 111.77 Millions but the real price have to takes into acount all contracts related to LRIP 9 like long lead items and so on. Here is the list

    LRIP-9 CONTRACTS : $11,271,778,966

    Lockheed $8,679,012,757
    Details

    long lead time items $822,532,385
    2014 - Mar 25, $698,032,385; Sep 22, $60,000,000
    2015 - Oct 30, $64,500,000
    initial spares $237,765,479
    2015 - Jun 25, $237,765,479
    helmet display system $101,304,341
    2015 - Jul 14, $101,304,341
    tooling & test equipment $526,005,754
    2015 - Aug 4, $431,322,997; Dec 21, $84,434,012
    2016 - Feb 16, $10,248,745
    miscellaneous $572,934,481
    2015 - Aug 31, $430,878,490; Oct 30, $120,555,991; Dec 10, $21,500,000
    2016 - Apr 15, $181,765,203
    modification management $47,514,822
    2015 - Dec 28, $47,514,822
    undefinitized: $6,370,955,495
    Details

    2016 - Nov 3 , $5,370,955,495
    2016 - Aug 12, “about $1,000,000,000”
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    Pratt - engine $2,592,766,209
    long lead time items $105,170,571
    2014 - May 2, $105,170,571
    manufacturing $1,038,074,689
    2016 - Apr 11, $1,038,074,689
    initial spares $402,916,206
    2015 - Sep 4, $249,830,014;
    2016 - Sep 16, $136,588,895; Sep 29, $16,497,297
    sustainment $151,770,483
    2015 - Oct 30, $104,290,158; Dec 21, $9,020,915
    2016 - Sep 1, $38,459,410
    miscellaneous $894,834,260
    2016 - Aug 10, $151,664,883; Oct 17, $743,169,377

    All of these contracts can be seen by going to defense.gov/News/Contracts -- in the archives by date

    So the real price of LRIP 9 F-35 is : 11,271,778,966/57= $ 197.75 Millions
     
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  5. Averageamerican

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    some times it is a $100 tent, but main point is there is no place on earth that the USA cant place bombs including nuclear bombs
     
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    Used to think the same, that it made no economic sense. But actually, the experienced terror leader , saudi is ready to pay millions to him.

    to even risk a 200k$ per year trained soldier with atleast 10 years experience (2 mil) in counter terror ops for conserving 1 40k $ bomb..
    Not worth it
     
  7. BMD

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    Blame the Geneva Convention. If it wasn't for that, you could just fuel air bomb Raqqa.
     
  8. jha

    jha 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Sometimes, those very 100 dollar tents hide the likes of OBL...
     
  9. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    A stealth bomber can also carry dozens of nuclear weapons and cant be stopped while completely destroying dozens of targets, its job is more then just taking out a tent.
     
  10. halloweene

    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Wishful thinking. I think i heard that in Bosnia too...
     
  11. Averageamerican

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    Trump may just nuclear bombs, he seems to think tactical use of nuclear weapons are acceptable.
     
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    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/11/07/marine-corps-f35-caught-fire-training-flight.html
    Marine Corps F-35 Caught Fire During Training Flight
    The Marine Corps is investigating after an F-35B Joint Strike Fighter based out of Beaufort, South Carolina, recently caught fire in mid-air, Military.com has learned.

    The incident happened Oct. 27 at Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501, a fleet replacement squadron for the Marine Corps consisting of 20 F-35B aircraft. One of the aircraft experienced a fire in the weapons bay while conducting a training mission over Beaufort, 1st Lt. John Roberts, a spokesman for 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, told Military.com.

    "The aircraft landed safely and there were no injuries sustained," he said. "An investigation is ongoing and we will provide updates as they are available."

    No estimate of damage caused by the fire was available. The incident was listed by the Naval Safety Center as a Class A mishap, meaning damage totalled $2 million or more on the $100 million aircraft.

    The squadron didn't observe any kind of grounding or operational pause as a result of the mishap, Roberts said.

    The F-35 program has suffered several setbacks due to aircraft catching fire, though previous incidents involved the Air Force's F-35A conventional take-off and landing variant.

    In June 2014, an F-35A caught fire upon takeoff at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, prompting the Defense Department to ground the entire F-35 fleet as it investigated the incident. This move forced the Marine Corps to postpone what was to have been the F-35B's international debut at the Farnborough International Airshow that summer.

    The damage to the aircraft in that incident came to more than $50 million and was determined to have been caused by a rotor arm that detached and came through the aircraft's upper fuselage, cutting fuel and hydraulic lines in its trajectory.

    More recently, in September, an F-35A from the 61st Fighter Squadron caught fire in the aft section of the aircraft after its engine was started, forcing the pilot to exit the aircraft.

    In an unrelated issue, the Air Force grounded 15 F-35As the same month due to failing coolant tube insulation.

    For the Marine Corps, this incident comes at a crucial time for the aircraft, as the first operational F-35B squadron, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121, prepares to forward-base from Yuma, Arizona to Japan in January, ahead of a sea deployment in the Pacific early the following year. The aircraft is now completing its third and final round of at-sea developmental tests aboard the amphibious assault ship USS America off the coast of San Diego, and is expected to complete them later this month.

    -- Hope Hodge Seck can be reached at hope.seck@military.com. Follow her on Twitter at @HopeSeck.

    Good thing the pilot managed to land and escape safely. That's the third F-35 to spontaneously catch fire; and this time it's not the engine.
     
  13. Averageamerican

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    Think there are about 300 F35s, will be years before all the bugs are worked out.
     
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