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F-35 Lightning II : News & Discussions

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picard, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    No, he is not crazy. He lies a lot or makes stuff up as he goes. People confuse that to being crazy.

    In India, he's a normal guy.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    F16-bk60 is on duty for years.
     
  3. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    They are going to make a new block for India with F-35 tech. That's not started yet. Block 60's electronics is simply a Block 50+ with AESA. A more modernized version is the F-16V.

    If IAF picks a single engine aircraft, it will at least have to be on par with the Rafale. The Block 60 is not at that level, no advanced EW, no sensor fusion etc. Saab has offered Gripen-E with pretty much all the stuff that will come with Rafale.

    Basically, there is no F-16B70 or F-16IN. There's no F-15 Silent Eagle either. If the USAF has to pick these two jets, they will ask for 'heavy' modernization, on par with F-35. So advanced EW from Britain, sensor fusion, next gen cockpit, modernized engine etc.

    Regardless of what Congress says, the USAF will ask for specs that will easily cross Trump's 4- year term.
    The fact is neither the Block 60 nor the F-15SA/SG etc are according to USAF specs, they were all developed to foreign air force specs.

    Think about it. Trump won't just come to office and cancel the program, the Pentagon will delay the cancellation with debates in the Congress, trying to get him to see the other way etc, that alone could take 1 to 1.5 years. Once it's cancelled, USAF will be asked to setup new requirements for the older jets, that will easily take 1 year. Then the companies will have to present prototypes, which will easily take 2 years or more. That alone has exceeded Trump's term. All Trump has accomplished in the meanwhile is kill hundreds of thousands of jobs all over the world.

    The F-35 has become un-killable. Any chance to kill it was lost many years ago. Rather Trump will shift his focus on next gen aircraft for the air force.

    If he really wants to create new jobs quickly, his main focus will be the navy and army, not the air force. The navy has a lot of room for expansion in production and job creation.

    You see, if Trump was a good leader, he would have cancelled the F-35 in his first day even though he knows it's bad for his ratings. But Trump isn't a good leader, he will do what benefits him.
     
  4. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Yes but a normal guy is able to make big mistake if he manages a country.
     
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  5. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    No, when I meant a normal guy, I meant he is no different from the normal politicians in India.

    He says something else and does something else, so I wouldn't be worried about what he says. As it is with Indian politicians, what he does is what matters.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    F-35 Development Could See 7-Month Slip, $530M Increase
    Dec 19, 2016Lara Seligman | Aerospace Daily & Defense Report
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    Just a week after president-elect Donald Trump slammed Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) as “out of control,” the Pentagon revealed that it is preparing for a delay of up to seven months in the new fighter’s development program and projecting cost growth of $530
     
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    *popcorn*

    Trump is an awful asshole, but he sure is entertaining!
     
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    Ghanta 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Welcome back Ezco !!!
    A long time since your last post it seems....
     
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  11. randomradio

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    It is always lively when it comes to Trump.
     
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  12. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Trump calls Boeing to price Super Hornet against F-35

    President-elect Donald Trump has hit the F-35 programme once again, this time courting Lockheed Martin competitor Boeing for the Joint Strike Fighter mission.

    Trump delivered the news in a 21 December tweet: “Based on the tremendous cost and cost overruns of the Lockheed Martin F-35, I have asked Boeing to price-out a comparable F-18 Super Hornet!"

    Trump’s tweet follows meetings with several US generals, including F-35 programme executive officer Lt Gen Chris Bogdan. The president elect’s reaction indicates Bogdan’s attempt to present a more nuanced picture of the F-35 programme and costs failed to sway Trump.


    While noting the programme’s costs and schedule have improved since its rebaseline in 2011, Bogdan did not present the most optimistic picture of the F-35 programme during a roundtable with reporters on 21 December. The programme may need up to $532 million more to finish development, but Bogdan says the real number is closer to $265 million. The Department of Defense still owes the Joint Programme Office $100 million which it borrowed to pay other expenses and the F-35 programme requires $165 milllion to accommodate new requirements such as redesigning the autonomic logistics information system (ALIS) to make the system deployable.

    "If you put $500 million of overrun, please explain that half of that was supposed to be money that I had already in the bank, the $265 million," Bogdan said in a plea to reporters and perhaps the president-elect.

    It was not immediately clear how an F/A-18E/F proposal could be used as a bargaining chip in negotiations between Trump and Lockheed.

    The short take-off and vertical landing F-35B could not be replaced by the F/A-18E/F, which needs a catapult to take-off from a carrier and an arresting system to land. The F/A-18E/F is a natural, albeit non-very low observable (VLO) stealth, replacement for the F-35C, but that variant represents a fraction of the overall programme of record. To achieve significant savings, Trump may have to propose the F/A-18E/F as an alternative for the F-35A, an aircraft operated by the US Air Force, which has never shown interest in the navy's fighter.

    Trump’s provocative tweets have reverberated across the Defense Department and industry since his election in November. During a roundtable with reporters on 21 December, Bogdan made the only sure forecast amid an already tempestuous presidency.

    “I cannot predict what the new administration will do and I’ll just leave it at that,” Bogdan says.

    Boeing has previously been attacked by another one of Trump's tweets about "out of control costs" in the Air Force One replacement programme, but the company may now sense an opportunity to take business away from a key rival.

    Within an hour of Trump's F-35 tweet on 22 December, Boeing's official corporate Twitter account responded: "Ready to work with @realDonaldTrump's administration to affordably meet US military requirements."

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...ing-to-price-super-hornet-against-f-3-432706/ :coffee:
     
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  13. Averageamerican

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    Expect its Trump bringing to pressure to bear on Lockheed.
     
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    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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  15. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The U.S. Navy’s Secret Counter-Stealth Weapon Could Be Hiding in Plain Sight
    https://news.usni.org/2014/06/09/u-s-navys-secret-counter-stealth-weapon-hiding-plain-sight
     

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