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F-35 Lightning II : News & Discussions

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picard, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Why try to convince you? Nobody care of you.
     
  2. Naagraj

    Naagraj 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Lol...that was brutal..cowboy pistol
     
  3. BMD

    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    It wasn't demonstrated in Libya though otherwise you have destroyed the SA-8 before it fired. The only evidence of SEAD you have is from an unofficial blog, using some unverified recon shot. No proof it was the Rafale. No mention of geolocation on MBDA page for Spectra either.

    You demonstrated the ability to fly through a 60s air defence system that was already crippled during El Dorado Canyon and hit 4 tanks. Even A-10As did that during Desert Storm.
     
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    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Nobody cares for your bullshit. Liar.
     
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    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Absolutely. Bw MBDA DO NOT build spectra........... Ridiculous arguments as usual.
     
  6. BMD

    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Very poor excuses in the face of exposed facts. But hey, look on the bright side, you defeated a 50 year-old Soviet SAM system.
     
  7. halloweene

    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Well it would be surprising to find advertisement on a Thales product on MBDA website wouldn't it?
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    You're wrong.
    A Rafale flown to Mach 1.6 with 2 x 2000L external tanks. Many years ago !

    It was one the the rare case where EF2000 was better than Rafale, swiss pilots said.
    At the end what was the choice of Swiss pilots? Rafale. Easily.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    The same source explained days before the first batch was inked that India will never baught Rafale .... :devilwork:
     
  11. BMD

    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Well it was committed, so it had to buy some to get the technology but let's face it, a 126 plane contract reduced to 36 planes is not an eager customer.
     
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    Evidence. Because from where I'm sitting, on actual aircraft performance, the Typhoon beat the Rafale 9 to 7.

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    M1.5 supercruise with A2A load.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20090815004539/http://www.eurofighter.at/austria/td_lu.asp

    Yet you think a Rafale with 2000L subsonic tanks can go faster than a Typhoon with 1000L supersonic tanks? Hmmmm.....
     
  13. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Prove it.

    The F-35 can supercruise at M1.2 with a full internal bomb load and the same fuel range as a Rafale with 2x2000L tanks.
     
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    126 with 18 delivered from french line on one side (MMRCA),

    36 (with at least a follow on order of 36) directly from french line on the other side.

    From a Dassault point of view, the second option is better (or far better with another batch).

    The MMRCA failed because HAL was imposed, because Indian side want Dassault to be responsible for the quality of all the plane but without the right to change anything inside the HAL mess, and because the HAL prices was far too high.
    Now with Reliance, the Dassault choice for joint venture, There's a great chance Rafale MII will follow...
     

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