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F-35 Lightning II : News & Discussions

Discussion in 'The Americas' started by Picard, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. BON PLAN

    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Japan will not rely only on F35, as you insinuate.
    They are developping a true Air fighter by themseves. A proof that F35 is not a multi role fighter, at least not good in air dominance.

    http://aviationweek.com/defense/jap...m=email&elq2=093720e46c9e4332b628ac3c4bbf5828
     
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    A different price now.
     
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    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I think it's like quantum mechanics: for this one there are uncertain relations between position and speed, for the F-35 it's between the price and the delivery date. :rofl:
     
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    heh, B's to A's.
     
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    The difference shouldn't be $100M per jet. That's like a whole new jet.
     
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    A photograph of the F-35

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    http://www.tampabay.com/news/milita...e-Navy-s-newest-assistant-secretary_163344072

    However, he was not aware of "the detailed status or risks of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter" and would have to review the program before he can make a recommendation to Navy Secretary Spencer on whether to purchase the full run of F-35s, mix and match with other aircraft like enhanced F-18s, or move some production toward a new airframe altogether.
     
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    The multi-billion pound scheme to buy F-35 Lightning II jump jets is the UK’s second largest weapons programme, but the MOD has refused to tell Parliament how much they will cost.

    A Commons defence select committee report has said the MOD’s response is “wholly unacceptable” and demanded six monthly updates on the programme to buy the Lockheed Martin jets.

    Julian Lewis MP, chairman of the committee said: “There has been an unacceptable lack of transparency from the MoD and Lockheed Martin which risks undermining public confidence in the programme.
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-combat-for-first-time-official-idUSKCN1M72BT

    Lockheed F-35 jet used by U.S. in combat for first time: official

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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States used an F-35 jet against a Taliban target in Afghanistan earlier on Thursday, marking the first U.S. combat use of the stealthy plane, a U.S. official said.


    FILE PHOTO: An Israeli Air Force F-35 fighter jet flies during an aerial demonstration at a graduation ceremony for Israeli Air Force pilots at the Hatzerim air base in southern Israel, December 27, 2017. REUTERS/Amir Cohen/File Photo
    The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the F-35B jet took off from the USS Essex amphibious assault ship in the Arabian Sea.


    The F-35, made by Lockheed Martin Co, comes in three variants - the F-35A conventional take-off and landing model, the F-35B, a short take-off/vertical landing version, and the F-35C, used aboard aircraft carriers.


    In May, Israel became the first country to use the U.S.-made F-35 stealth fighter in combat.

    The United States and 10 partner nations are aiming to grow the F-35 fleet to more than 3,000 jets and bring the unit price of the F-35A closer to $80 million in 2020 through efficiencies gained by ordering in larger quantifies.


    Lockheed is the prime contractor for the jet. Its partners include Northrop Grumman Corp, United Technologies Corp’s Pratt & Whitney and BAE Systems Plc.
     
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    https://breakingdefense.com/2018/09/f-35-lrip-11-signed-89m-for-an-f-35a/

    F-35 LRIP 11 Signed: $89M For An F-35A, Including Engine
    102 F-35As (Air Force) for $89.2 million apiece, down 5.4 percent from LRIP 10; 25 F-35Bs (Marines & Royal Navy) for $115.5 million each, down 5.7 percent; and 14 F-35Cs (US Navy) for $107.7 million each, down 11.1 percent.
    By SYDNEY J. FREEDBERG JR. and COLIN CLARKon September 28, 2018 at 12:16 PM
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    WASHINGTON: One day after the first-ever combat airstrike by an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the Pentagon and prime contractor Lockheed Martin announced a new $11.5 billion contract for the next lot of fighters that brings the price of the Air Force model, the F-35A, down below $90 million apiece for the first time.

    Of course, we knew the deal was extremely close because a so-called handshake agreement had already been announced during the Farnborough Air Show in mid-July. But today’s timing is so tidy, and the press blitz so broad, that a skeptic might wonder if the strike planning and contract negotiations were coordinated.

    The final agreement was clearly hard-fought. Joint Program Office chief Vice Adm. Mat Winter put the heat on last February when he told reporters that Lockheed Martin “could be much more collaborative and cooperative but they aren’t… They could, but they choose not to.”


    But these are genuine milestones, even if they don’t settle the debate. At least in terms of public perceptions, could this be the long-awaited turning point for the controversial stealth fighter after three decades of often-troubled development?

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    The cost per plane has been coming down, as contractors learn to build the airplane more efficiently, efficiencies of scale start kicking in, and two successive program managers have played hardball on price, publicly berating Lockheed Martin. How much? Lockheed says it’s already brought the “fly away cost” — i.e. the marginal cost per plane, not counting R&D — by about 60 percent from Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) lot 1, signed in 2007 for just two planes, to LRIP 10, signed in February 2017 for 90 planes. Today’s announcement was for LRIP 11, which covers a whopping 141 aircraft:

    • 102 F-35As, the base model used by the US Air Force and most international customers, for $89.2 million apiece, down 5.4 percent from LRIP 10;
    • 25 F-35Bs, the “jump jet” version used by the US Marines (including in yesterday’s strike) and UK Royal Navy, for $115.5 million each, down 5.7 percent; and
    • 14 F-35Cs, the extra-tough carrier-based variant used by the US Navy, for $107.7 million each, down 11.1 percent.

    What’s more, all these figures are counting the jet engine, which previous cost announcements often omitted, conveniently, as it’s technically a separate contract.


    Despite these big numbers, moreover, remember this remains a Low Rate Initial Production (LRIP) contract. The Pentagon has not yet given Lockheed the go-ahead to enter full rate production. When it does, the program should achieve even greater efficiencies. That said, the total cost will be staggering for the biggest conventional defense program in history.
     
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    And does this price includes the D2R2 upgrade ?
     
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    What is that?
     

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