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F16, Gripen - Make In India Single Engine Aircraft - News and possibilities

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Averageamerican, Sep 30, 2016.

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  1. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    So Adani is already putting pressure on the PM. What are the odds of them getting SP?
     
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    :lol:

    So I was correct. The quality of the reader matters a lot.
     
  3. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    Of course, when the poster has no clue about what he is talking, at least the reader needs to be able to understand it. But it's still sad to see a mod spreading so much misinformation.
     
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    randomradio Colonel REGISTERED

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    Prove it.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Stop reading wikipedia.
    If you don't have the RCS of the target with the range announced, it means nothing. 290km is maybe the range to detect a carrier on sea or a B52 in the air.
    A small to medium plane radar (ie a small to medium nose cone), against a 1m² RCS target, even with the best radar available (ie APG80 or more recent) is less than 200km. And F16 has a small nose cone, so.... even Bk 70 best class radar failed to less than 200km.

    About price :
    original news : "The possible $2.78 billion sale would include 19 aircraft equipped with Northrop Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar. Bahrain plans to integrate the new aircraft into their existing fleet of 20 Block 40 F-16s. The State Department's 8 September announcement also included a potential $1 billion contract with Lockheed Martin to upgrade Bahrain existing fleet of 20 Block 40 F-16 aircraft to the F-16V configuration, including AESA radar, navigation systems and F-16V simulators."

    The 1 billion is in addition to the 2.78 billion. If not why not just write : "The possible $2.78 billion sale would include 19 aircraft equipped with Northrop Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar and the upgrade of Bahrain existing fleet of 20 Block 40 F-16 aircraft to the F-16V configuration, including AESA radar, navigation systems and F-16V simulators."

    => Stop dreaming !
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Exactly.
    We have found the new low cost awacs : a F16bk70 flying in circle....
    :fighting1:
     
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    As per USAF range of APG 68 is 290km
    APG 80 made for UAE is double

    APG 83 of F-16V is even more.

    Certainly a point where F-16 beats Gripen

    Will go well with AIM-120D
     
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    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Not wikipedia its northropgrumman.com, flightglobal.com and f-16.net

    APG 83 proposed to India is F-16V in all likelihood will be better in range than any other current fighter radar in IAF and will be in direct competition with Rafale's RBE2AA.
     
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    against a B52 of 50m² RCS maybe.

    Good night Colonel.
     
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    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    And its not competing against Rafale so take it easy.

    It is competing against Gripen to replace India's old migs 21,23,27 and some older jaguars.

    India's needs a light combat aircraft (LCA) and F-16V will do the job well.
     
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    http://www.indiastrategic.in/2017/09/21/lockheed-martin-in-jet-speed-to-make-f-16s-in-india/
     
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    Doklam stand-off gain: IAF to build more bomb-proof hangars across northeast

    The clearance to build blast-proof in a war footing across the North East came from the Prime Minister Office, top sources told India Today.


    The Indian Air Force (IAF) will construct more bomb-proof hangars across airfields in north east India to house fighter jets. Blast-proof hangers protect fighter jets when airfields are under attack.

    Although a long standing demand of the IAF, the need for blast proof hangars for fighters was again underlined during the two-and-half-month-long Doklam stand-off in Bhutan between the Indian and Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA).

    The clearance to build blast-proof in a war footing across the North East came from the Prime Minister Office, top sources have told India Today. The total project is likely to cost the Indian exchequer about a thousand crore.

    The need for more blast-proof hangars had been highlighted earlier too. The previous UPA government, however, had failed to act.

    For security reasons India Today will not reveal the numbers or the locations of blast-proof hangars.

    Evaluation of the possible scenarios during the crisis showed that India had an edge over China. But, it also revealed the need for more blast-proof hangars to house fighters.

    Top sources told India Today, that China suffers from inherent disadvantages. Chinese fighter jets taking -off from the Tibetan Plateau's will have to trade-off between the pay-load and fuel they carry because of the height of the TAR.

    India, on the contrary, suffers from no such disadvantage. "Having more blast-proof hangars in the North East will enhance the capability of the IAF further," top sources told India Today.

    China has about 10 airfields in the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR). But, none of the Chinese airfields have blast-proof hangars which can house fighters.

    "Positioning or operating fighters from these airfields in case of full-scale war will difficult for China," sources told India Today and added "without boom-proof hangar's protecting fighters on ground will be difficult for them."

    The IAF has stationed Russian made Su-30MKi deep strike bombers in Tejpur recently. It has also assets distributed in Chauba in Dibrugarh in Assam and in Hashimara in West Bengal.

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...m-stand-off-bomb-proof-hangars/1/1053184.html
     
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    It's not the problem.
    even a F22 radar or a SU35 or Mig31.... can't detect a 1m² fighter at 600km as you claim.
     

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